I think who would be a really good addition to the Y&R head writing team is Anna Cascio. She was a writer for OLTL, ATWT and now GH. She did co-head write AMC in 2003. She has worked with Jean in the past. She literally was at OLTL on and off for 16 years. She could be a great co-head writer for Y&R with Jean and Shelley.

Anna.Theresa Cascio isn't leaving GH; also Leah Laiman worked with her, the last two soaps that had Jean as a HW were both canceled, I guess third time is the charm

Edited October 12, 201312 yr by cassadine1991

She did talk about working at Jabot. She mentioned working for uncle Jack at Jabot or Grampa Victor at Newman. Then she chose to work for her father. I don't see why that's wrong. I think any reasonable adult who has been divorced can only pray that their child is involved in a loving step parent/ step family situation. There are far worse things a child can experience than having a step family love her too much.

Those last scenes with Delia telling Billy that he had to let go of her, but she would always be a part of him just killed me.

This is not even about step parents. I have the best step mother in the world who helped raise me. And her family treats me just like they treat my brother and sister. So my issue is not step parent bias. It is the constant push and propping of anything Newman over anyone else...even when it makes zero sense. This is a story that Victoria and the Newman's should take a back seat in but they are not.. they seem front and center. And it is tiring.

Chloe is not Billy's wife or love. Hell if it weren't for Delia they'd never have a reason to interact. I don't consider it a big deal that she wasn't in his fantasies about his family.

Sorry to play the doomsday card here but the new regime already has me on the edge of seat.... to quit.

Billy is nothing but obnoxious, Chloe is annoying, Kevin is only interesting when bad or with Chavez, Victoria does not even qualify as a character. So why are they frontburer exactly?

Oh wait, there is Dullon who's the new center piece of Genoa City and combines all of this into one character. Sheesh! Kill them NOW and try sth. differnt because this is not cutting it. Where's JILL and why is there no real business action in Genoa City anymore?

This is not even about step parents. I have the best step mother in the world who helped raise me. And her family treats me just like they treat my brother and sister. So my issue is not step parent bias. It is the constant push and propping of anything Newman over anyone else...even when it makes zero sense. This is a story that Victoria and the Newman's should take a back seat in but they are not.. they seem front and center. And it is tiring.

So you think Kevin should take a back seat in this story too, right? No one should be featured as grieving but Billy and Chloe? As if Delia never interracted with anyone else on Y&R? As if no one else on Y&R loved her?

I am just bracing myself for the tongue lashing Billy is going to get from Victor. I could not loathe TGVN any more than I do and I just hate it when writers make my viewing time extremely unpleasant day after day after day.

I also dread what Sara Bibel has predicted: http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2013/10/11/deep-soap-yr-could-use-some-general-hospital-style-levity/

I am looking forward to seeing how Nikki fits into Delia's accident. And I am very happy that she is Dylan's biological mother.

Sara Bibel is certainly correct when she says that JFP's signature style is dark and gloomy. She perfectly pinned down why this show isn't working. They're using a good number of the cast, but everything is so dark and depressing. EVERYTHING. Not only that, but the stories are all tired soap cliches. I can't believe all of this was signed off on. Dylan's entire existance, Chelsea hiding the baby from Adam, Nikki's MS and missing son, Phyllis in a coma, Katherine's death and now this with Delia. Even the blogger story, which could be fun, it incredibly dark. JFP is the type that has a heavy stamp on writing, hence this being a repeat of a previous GH story. I'm sure these new writers are coming in with the mandate to do more of the same. I believe what we've currently been seeing is JFP/Shelley Altman as HWs. I think Josh Griffith's stuff has been long gone, with the exception of his outlines. They wouldn't be jumping into such a major story a week before the new writers officially take over. This is already a representation of what they do.

I'm going to try and keep watching, but this is looking worse than MAB or LML.

I don't care if it's too dark (which it is...) or bright and yellow, I cannot stand 90% of the characters driving story and the stories itself are not compelling.

And there is definitely a change of material ever since the will reading of Katherine regardless of what the credits show. The only leftover material is probably the Hillary stuff and Connor story.

Sorry to play the doomsday card here but the new regime already has me on the edge of seat.... to quit.

Billy is nothing but obnoxious, Chloe is annoying, Kevin is only interesting when bad or with Chavez, Victoria does not even qualify as a character. So why are they frontburer exactly?

Oh wait, there is Dullon who's the new center piece of Genoa City and combines all of this into one character. Sheesh! Kill them NOW and try sth. differnt because this is not cutting it. Where's JILL and why is there no real business action in Genoa City anymore?

They were on the backburner and filler pretty much all year hopefully they go right back to those positions after this story

They were on the backburner and filler pretty much all year hopefully they go right back to those positions after this story

Billy and Vickie are pretty much every single day playing Soosie Homemaker all year, Chloe has been on every day with Chelsea and her seperation from Kevin. I wouldn't call it backburner at all. All of them are pointless uninspired characters getting worse by every regime.

Edited October 12, 201312 yr by sheilaforever

We need something like a new romantic hot couple. I think what jean could do is create a new family in genoa city to mix things up. Including maybe a huge umbrella storyline with the whole cast. Something downright exciting for the audience.

We need something like a new romantic hot couple. I think what jean could do is create a new family in genoa city to mix things up. Including maybe a huge umbrella storyline with the whole cast. Something downright exciting for the audience.

The 'new romantic hot couple' is obviously Dylan adjacent and look how well that's going. Failure.

The 'new family' hasn't worked on Y&R since Bill Bell brought on the Abbotts and Newmans in the early 80s...failure.

A huge umbrella storyline would have to involve the business angle of Y&R, but that's been shafted for a solid 10 years now...another failure.

The 'new romantic hot couple' is obviously Dylan adjacent and look how well that's going. Failure.

The 'new family' hasn't worked on Y&R since Bill Bell brought on the Abbotts and Newmans in the early 80s...failure.

A huge umbrella storyline would have to involve the business angle of Y&R, but that's been shafted for a solid 10 years now...another failure.

I wonder why? B&B has managed to all but replace the Forrester's with the Spencer's, but Y&R just can't seem to do the same.

I really only saw two episodes this week but I honestly believe it's not even about whether the show is too 'dark' or how much romance is or isn't included--at this point it may not even be about specific characters (there are a couple of exceptions, people I'd love to see sidelined or given a long term absence) or lack of business story lines.

I really think the writing just isn't there:

A story may start off promising, only to take a nosedive, either because the writers are too timid to take the story to it's limit or by falling back on old soap tropes that are beyond tired.

Timing of stories are off or lacking entirely, storyline executions either stall or are hastily rushed to conclusion, always with an unsatisfying ending.

Characters are written with no direction or particular purpose. Their circumstances meander along or change out of the blue without warning (e.g. Nikki's MS, Sharon's Bi-Polar) and no attention to detail seems to be paid.

The writing just seems sloppy, unfocused and at times, even indifferent as if written by people who are burnt out or flustered for ideas.

With these storylines, I don't even think Meryl Streep or Denzel Washington could make it more compelling (okay, a bit more compelling for a brief period of time )

This is just the way it appears to me.

Edited October 12, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer

We need something like a new romantic hot couple. I think what jean could do is create a new family in genoa city to mix things up. Including maybe a huge umbrella storyline with the whole cast. Something downright exciting for the audience.

and that new family is going to be front and center and jammed down our throats, and I see FOJs being casted

Billy and Vickie are pretty much every single day playing Soosie Homemaker all year, Chloe has been on every day with Chelsea and her seperation from Kevin. I wouldn't call it backburner at all. All of them are pointless uninspired characters getting worse by every regime.

They have not had an actual story all year. The ones who are on everyday with a front burner story would be Dylan/Chelsea/Adam/Nick/Avery. Billy/Vikki/Chloe/Kevin are more like filler

I wonder why? B&B has managed to all but replace the Forrester's with the Spencer's, but Y&R just can't seem to do the same.

Different audience different show length.