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It was interesting to me that for the Love bible Nixon already felt (maybe ABC had already asked for this) that she map it out up to the cliffhanger for the Olympics break. Also interesting the references already to the movie pilot (she constantly says "we have to remind audiences of this in case they didn't see the movie" etc) the movie of course is credited Story by Agnes Nixon, teleplay by Marland and Mulcahey. You're right that the DID element to Lilly's story isn't there yet, although there's SOME suggestion of it in the bible (Lilly acting very differently in certain situations--but really that could just be a response to trauma in general.) Didn't Marland pen, or want to pen, a multiple personalities story for Jane Elliot's Carrie when he was at Guiding Light? I don't remember the details except I think he left the show in part because the network had an issue with it? (Elliot of course was also on New Day in Eden though I'm not sure if it was a major role or not.) (Thanks for the details on New Day in Eden--for all the interesting or major storylines that show had, it's a shame that the only full episode and clips we have for the show are... well pretty boring story wise lol.) Of course having Lilly's multiple be with Curtis while Lilly is with Jack does have remnants of a switch on Nixon's original Vicki/Nicki storyline (except Nicky was "slumming it" with lower class Vince, not one of the richest family members around.)

The only AMC soap bible I've read is from 1967 (presumably the one that Nixon felt she lost on her trip) and has MANY changes--far more than the Loving bible and is also about 1/3 as long if that. (One of the oddest things is Joe Martin and crew have the last name Craig--which she would use for OLTL--and the Brents, Ted and Phil and Ruth, are the Martins. Anyway, from what I recall, in that outline, Phil overhears that his birth parents are aunt Carol (aka Amy) and Nick Davis, and basically he runsaway to New York to track down Nick, who is described as completely amoral, and ends up working at his bar. Nick is "every bit as bad as Phil has been told" and after a drunk Nick tells Phil about how he had to get out of Pine Valley when he got a girl pregnant, Phil in a rage jumps on him. Nick hits his head on a table and is killed (later Linc Tyler--a lawyer here--will represent Phil and get him off due to "mental anguish" from the situation.) Now I have no idea if Agnes Nixon rewrote a full bible when she finally pitched AMC to ABC in 1969 but obviously she changed story projections. But, as Nixon remembers in the little interview clips they show here on Pluto TV between AMC episodes, she said Nick was only meant to last 6 to 8 months but they liked Larry Keith so much that they kept him on until HE wanted to leave. But obviously so many of these other details were changed anyway.

It's one of the scans from the Agnes Nixon collection at Northwestern. Send me a private message (I know I've shared it quite a bit already among members here...)

And thought there might be interest in what is said about the Lily story in the bible (keep in mind the town wasn't Corinth yet but rather Carthage)

Do you have a link to the most recent Italian eps? From what I can tell, the instigation for Lily's story was Agnes Nixon's idea (absolutely as it's clearly spelled out in the "Love" bible that Nixon prepared before Marland came on board--it even says that Garth will be written out in late Winter '83 or Spring '84), but I'm sure Marland was upset about ABC's interference (and he certainly was MUCH more likely to throw up a fuss or even leave due to network interference than Agnes Nixon who I think had learned over the years to try to make the best of such situations.) I've never heard anyone suggest that Marland wasn't involved throughout his 2 (?) year contract, but I definitely could imagine his heart wasn't in it as much, and certainly by then 85 we are getting (from the archives) Nixon's own story projections and not just the Jonathan/Devil one... One random page from the bible--I thought this was interesting that Nixon draws comparison between Chuck/Tara/Phillip on AMC and Stacey/Jack/Lily (with Jack and Lily as the end game--we know how that ended up...)

I'm sure this makes me a bad X-Men fan but... Apocalypse and his main narratives has never been one of the major X-Men arcs that has done much for me. I have so much good will for this show, even with the behind the scenes issues, that I'm still excited for season 2 but... meh. Some of that may go back to a bias as a teen in the 90s reading all my brother's old X-Men (etc...) collection and X-Force didn't do much for me at all.

Ooh that's a good combo! I did just finish the interview (which I liked more than I expected to--some good little tidbits. And yes, I was amused when Susan had no idea what Michele was talking about with soap opera cue cards that weren't the script but would remind you where you were in the script??)

Thanks for that! Wow I thought I had some idea of 1986 AMC (and had seen episodes before) but several people here and several storylines are pretty unfamiliar to me, and if I knew Skye was a jazz singer I certainly had forgotten :O Although I have seen bits of this Skye when she slept with Tad (cheating on Hillary and providing Michael E Knight's first attempt to break away from AMC--I think that's when he did that angel comedy.) Interesting to see the credits (love when we get full credits :P ) Art Wallace and Gillian Spencer are listed as story consultants--Wallace being another major Dark Shadows writer working on an Agnes Nixon soap...

Yeah, there have been a couple of shows like this in the past little while on Broadway, and I think the thinking is people will pay Broadway prices just to see the famous people on stage--which isn't really feasible right now... There were the two "plays" All In and All Out which were just a rotating group of celebrities reading Simon Rich stories, I think they finished their intended run, but I know several friends who actually felt pretty put off by what they were getting for their money. (I am curious what autobiography Susan Lucci would have read from?)

I've always meant to see that, thanks! I have seen some popular clips from it over the years... --it's interesting that Craven was still doing TV work at the time (I'm not sure if it came out just before or just after the first Elm Street.) Speaking of her TV movies, I didn't realize until reading that reposted Claire Labine/Bill Bell interview that Labine wrote Lucci's The Bride in Black (which I have seen but not in 30+ years...)

I do find it interesting that Nixon's time as HW at GL overlapped with her time at AW (and her time at AW briefly overlapped with her time OLTL.)

I'd love to see an interview with her talking about her soap writing etc (I know she largely seems to have done script work, including AMC in the late 80s and very early 90s--as well as a story consultant credit.) But she also is listed on Wiki as an Interim HW at One Life to Live during the weird JFP era " January 4, 1999 – July 15, 1999 Jill Farren Phelps (de facto, uncredited) July 16, 1999 – October 1, 1999 Gillian Spencer (interim) October 4, 1999 – November 25, 1999 Gillian Spencer Megan McTavish November 29, 1999 – May 4, 2001 Megan McTavish "

Wow. Well I still have issue with the way they are showing these episodes (I was away from my TV and computer for two days and was worried I may have missed a chunk of new episodes before they were rotated out but I stayed up till 2am catching them yesterday and now they've cycled back a couple of episodes--which they did last week too, so I guess I wasn't in fear of missing them.) But I was worried that this might be an experiment that they'd already pull the plug on, so I'm glad that doesn't seem to be true at all, for now anyway...I just hope they improve it (though the little tie in phone app actually is kinda neat...) I mean Susan Lucci is a great ambassador for the show and Agnes Nixon's legacy but she's obviously not doing this promo for free...

Ha well that makes sense. I only know The Social and The Good Stuff or whatever--I don't think the other shows air on the West coast.

I appreciated that she basically did all the Toronto shows in one day? And of course said a lot of the same stuff--still I'll always appreciate her shout outs to Agnes Nixon (though in at least one of the interviews she name drops Nixon with no explanation who she was :P ). Still, fun to see. And I was surprised she didn't talk about her book more--was Pluto TV actually paying in part for her Canadian appearances? I'm glad that she actually seems aware enough of what storyline is playing on on Pluto right now.