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  1. When B&B started airing in the UK on a channel I was able to watch, it started from mid-1994. Over those mid 90s years, I remember one occasion where Macy and Brooke interacted (possibly Macy inviting Brooke to her wedding to Thorne) and being surprised that they were so friendly with each other as they had never spoken onscreen up to that point. Equally, I had no idea back then of the backstage drama with Kimberlin Brown and Hunter Tylo but I was always curious as to why Sheila/Taylor had no interaction whatsoever (or rarely even discussed one another). I now know the reasons and that there was some interaction during the BeLieF storyline but not again until 2002. I don't remember one single scene, group or otherwise, that they shared from 1994 onwards.
  2. I'm UK based too and had exactly the same in late February with my AZ first dose. It felt like a very light hangover really but I was fine the day after. Fingers crossed the same for you too.
  3. I've just been down a small B&B rabbit hole having found a lot of the BeLieF stuff in good quality and of course it means I've watched this about 73 times in a loop. It truly is one of my favourite soap scenes of all time seeing Brooke/Stephanie really explode for the first time with genuine mutual loathing. If Brooke hadn't been the more passive participant in the feud up to this point, I don't think it would have nearly the impact it did. It also goes to show how much genuine 'direction' the show had back in the day because in a 2021 soap, you'd find that level of yelling and hysteria in any old argument but here it's really earned and absolutely necessary. We know that the whack KKL gave SF resulted in a decade long ban on any rematch and you can tell she almost wants to call her a bitch but pulls out more standards and practises appropriate insults. One thing though that I'm hoping people can help with...I've never been able to understand what Brooke screams at Brooke to result in the slap and figured it's time to find out! "Oh so it's all my fault is it, you lying BLANK BLANK animal!" Anybody know?!
  4. I don't think I could add anything or put it better than what loads of you have already said because I agree with pretty much everything. However the really sad thing with B&B's decline is that for every awful period that gets absolutely slated, within five years it's looked on with rose tinted spectacles because it's so superior to what has come after. For me, it felt like the rot set in around 1999 when the show became hugely Amber centric. Then into 2000-1, Macy's death, Morgan's nonsensical backstory, Stephanie's abortion tea, Deacon/Bridget...it felt like the wheels were flying off. Yet looking back on a lot of that now, it feels like it would be a fun rewatch and at least it wasn't boring. Over the past year I watched all of 2005-19 that the official channel had up (with very, very frequent use of the ff button). The Liam character signified where the show just became incredibly turgid. If you look at the 2005 material and some thereafter, there is some really great stuff but I tend to credit anything positive to Patrick Mulcahey. His scripts and characterisation glossed over a lot of the structural flaws.
  5. Ah good to know thank you. I remember the odd hiatus before so maybe we'll be lucky and get them again at some point!
  6. Just want to make sure I've not missed any uploads - have we reached a stop to the 1990 eps with 888? Completely understand we're reliant on the kindness of others but didn't want to have missed them if they are uploaded in the Vault somewhere I've not spotted them!
  7. I can't remember the whole thing but I know that Jade and the cop ended up together, I think with the suggestion they had a baby. Perry wound up in a mental institution and Jade "visits her often". I remember thinking that was such a dark and almost comically flippant way to wrap up her cliffhanger. I also remember Joy survived the lightning strike (I can remember Lisa Hartman's voiceover saying these things) but drawing a blank on Lindsey... It was such a great romp of a mini-series. I'm not sure it would have lasted a 22+ episode season but it was an entertaining ride.
  8. I certainly will be now, once I've finished the storyline. Good on her for getting on with her life in a new career but it's a crying shame the industry evolved in a way that there was no space left for her. She'd be great on B&B albeit I wouldn't wish that upon her these days. I've just reached Edie Falco as a nurse tending to Steffi. This is really the gift that keeps on giving with those sorts of surprises.
  9. As someone who never had the opportunity to watch Loving, the show has interested me for years. I've seen bits and pieces (the pilot, odd episodes on YT) and you've all managed a far better job than I could of articulating why it's so intriguing. Every single isolated episode I've seen feels like a completely different show. I've been wanting to watch the Loving Murders for literally 25 years and the timing of these uploads is an absolute gift for me to dial down anxiety and immerse in something. As a soap loving 10 year old in the UK, my first knowledge of the story came from a friend of mine bringing me back a copy of Soap Opera Magazine, I guess from around August. It was a snapshot of the story that imprinted on me because it bore no resemblance to anything I'd seen on a soap before - I was also a precocious Agatha Christie and slasher fan so it ticked all my boxes. I've now got about 20 episodes into the story and my reflections at random so far: I completely understand why @dc11786 or any long term fan would struggle with the story as a wrap up to "their soap". Initially I dug the relentless gloominess of the story and the curse of the Aldens. However the handling of Clay's death was so off. The physical comedy of it might have worked if it was a silly side story for Tess but the Weekend at Bernie's [!@#$%^&*] with the corpse felt like a slap in the face. Then vacillating back to the Alden funeral preparations and grief - truly bizarre. The Alden mansion set is stunningly beautiful. One of the best "mansions" I've seen on daytime. Ava and Kate are hugely watchable to me for completely different reasons. Kate really emanates warmth and that matriarchal archetype but without coming across as a total bore or cliche. Lisa Peluso is somebody I'm aware of but have barely seen in action before - I already feel like she'd be in the Susan Flannery league of actresses for me who I could watch do just about anything. Really charismatic and I find Ava really likable. I can't put my finger on it but aside from the Buck hotness, I find Darnell the most attractive in anything I've seen him in. Also, with the exception of Charles, I really appreciate that the black characters are all actual characters - multi faceted, different POVs, brilliant actors - not tired tropes. Pat is another character I am enjoying immensely even though she's firmly supporting. I can't believe Christine Tudor didn't go on to other roles after this, outside of daytime even. I presume this is a reflection on the era, how she presented physically in 1995 due to the way the show styled her. It's a crying shame. I've also enjoyed seeing her and reading this thread generally in relation to the Gwyneth character. One of those I wish there was a meaty bio for on the internet to understand her background and growth through the show.
  10. It looks like they're working in the opposite direction - 2005 is patchy but they've uploaded pretty much everything from 2006 to date. A strange move but interesting development. I hold out hope we'll get more. There's no geo blocking either which is a refreshing change.
  11. I'm up to around episode 346 (I think) and the Angela story has just started. It is such a strange story...I get that it was most likely done to elicit sympathy for Stephanie but I can't imagine what the long term plan was. I know about the ultimate deception but I don't really buy (yet) that it was Bell's intention from the offset. Susan Flannery continues to amaze me. Having only watched from the mid-90s onwards, I'm used to the bulldozer she became, always a hair's breadth from fury. This earlier version is far more nuanced and Flannery's exhausted resignation when she told Eric and then the kids about Angela was perfection. I've always been a Brooke stan but watching these early years does provide so much colour and texture to the later stuff.
  12. Thanks that's interesting to know and reassuring I hadn't simply missed it. The Logan stuff is important context to the set up of the show and I can't put my finger on what doesn't work for me. The casting is stronger than I'd expected but other than Brooke and to a lesser extent Donna, I don't really connect with them. I'm also very intrigued about the recasting of Judith Baldwin with Nancy Burnett. Judith set Beth up as a kind and strikingly beautiful woman who life hadn't been kind to; one you could imagine, when watching for the first time, might realistically win Eric's heart and take her place in the house on the hill. Nancy Burnett however just does not play that character.
  13. Add me to that list, I absolutely ate up the 1992 episodes. I've just started watching from the beginning thanks to this thread and with some judicious FFing (mainly the Logans) I'm up to episode 50. I've always been a huge fan of Susan Flannery but her characterisation in these early episodes is mesmerising; to me she holds the entire show together. She's both terrifying (genuinely, not the cartoon slap slap 2000s version) and tragic. I do have a question about Stephanie in these episodes though. In the first couple of weeks she received a phone call at home and did the classic soapy "I told you never to call me here" routine. Do we find out who the mystery caller was? I assumed it would be to do with "Angela" but it seems very early for that to have been factored in.
  14. In essence, I'd say so from my limited observation God knows moneyed Cheshire is a whole other universe... I've only seen a few eps of this return so the Barbour look sounds exactly right and an updated follow on from her 90s style. But I saw her in some really unflattering outfits with false nails and her hair looking a bit Cheshire. I did see an episode where she "dressed down" after Moira shoved her in a mud mountain - it was natural and understated. Perhaps I've not seen enough to judge fairly. I do hope though that fans (and I guess the show) move on from the age related potshots. I've never thought of Kim as the kind of character who'd put herself in the position to invite cheap, low blows.
  15. I dipped in again to see how they'd handle Kim's permanent return and dipped right back out again; there is nothing compelling or even logical about the way they're attempting to integrate her back into the show. Practically begging Cain for sex, nearly getting into a fist fight with fish wife Moira and propping up the bar at the Woolpack like an old lush. All while being presented as a femme fatale for the ages. It's so coarse and crass and lacking any kind of realism - not helped by her floating around the cardboard and glitter Home Farm set the rest of the time. It's third rate Footballers' Wives stuff and the styling does Claire King absolutely no favours. No wealthy, sophisticated woman who lives in rural Yorkshire dresses that way (even if they have come out of prison) nor does it correspond with the character as she was in the 1990s. The hair, makeup and nails make her look like a hard woman who spends half her life on sun beds and smokes 40 a day. Ironically, she actually looked better on Corrie when she was playing exactly that kind of character.
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