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A lot of that seems to be because they have hard time proving out the profitability to shareholders and why the ad revenue isn’t often on par with shrinking broadcast networks. Netflix pioneered this lack of transparency.

To me, Heather Tom is the actress I most associate with 90’s Y&R, but VR is right up there with her. Those two alone really.

Nielsen has their own independent streaming measurement, it measures both streaming first content and there’s a separate chart for acquired content (anything coming from broadcast networks). The list is fairly small, but I have never seen soaps pop up the acquired chart ever. I hope once day Nielsen can release a more expanded list so we could truly/independently see how soaps are doing in the wider streaming context, not just platform reported numbers.

Nielsen has their own independent streaming measurement, it measures both streaming first content and there’s a separate chart for acquired content (anything coming from broadcast networks). The list is fairly small, but I have never seen soaps pop up the acquired chart ever. I hope once day Nielsen can release a more expanded list so we could truly/independently see how soaps are doing in the wider streaming context, not just platform reported numbers.

It’s weird because they clearly gave MS a cup with liquid inside to sip in that scene and the tension was building for that spit take, but they should have communicated to both actresses that it would be filmed with MS by herself and then they’d film a reaction shot of VR separately. It feels like more of a production failure than the one from the actresses themselves, but MS did have level of low self-awareness to not at least try to discuss it with VR before they shot the scene.

MTS seems like the type if she likes you, she likes you and if she doesn’t, well, she doesn’t, lol. She really thought she was the HBIC when Ed Scott was the EP. I know she’s spoken publicly about how the other actors would make snide remarks about them and it caused friction on set. Jeanne Cooper is the only other actor who went on record about Melody and Ed’s behavior though, I believe.

Who did she audition for on BTG? Anita? Both MVJ and Sheila Ducksworth have said TT was the only actress they ever asked for that role and seriously considered, so curious what role she was up for and why it never happened. Ah, yes, her lawsuit - but that was pretty much dismissed and went nowhere, no?

That’s an interesting point, I’ve long wondered why VR seems off limits for daytime in general and not just Y&R. I don’t care how many auditions she supposedly went on, the fact it’s been almost 20 years since she left Y&R and no other daytime soap has hired her (obviously she’s remained busy doing other things). It’s jarring when so many non-talents with lesser popularity have been recycled through multiple soaps at the same time. We know Bradley Bell, for example, loves him some good Y&R cast-offs, but even he has never legitimately pursued VR.

It’s hard to even compare as the chart rules were different in every era. It was a lot more difficult for popular acts to score multiple #1 in the non-streaming era.

Y&R’s biggest issue is that it needs viable new and next generation characters. VR is always welcomed back as Dru, but that won’t fix many of the show’s biggest issues.

As crap as Zoe’s return is/was, I can’t believe this was 25 years ago. It’s arguably the show’s most defining moment of the 21st century to this day.

Sony Pictures has a wider worldwide agreement with Netflix to exclusively stream their content, so assuming that’s what this is coming down to. Paramount + and Peacock just retain the US streaming rights due to some preexisting agreements, but the existing Canadian streaming agreements seem to be expiring here.

I do think Susan Fales-Hill, who was largely the lead writer on the original series, doesn’t get half the credit she deserves. Somehow Debbie Allen walks away with all the credit and no one acknowledges Fales-Hill. In fact, Whitley was largely based on Fales-Hill’s own life. Yvette Lee Bowser (then Yvette Denise Lee) is another writer who cut her teeth on the original show for the first 5 seasons, and then went on to create Living Single of course.