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EB stopped commenting on the show's writing years ago. I think he's given it up and is just happy to have a place to spend a few hours. Maybe he thinks it's not worth the time and effort.

Nailed it. I have to move to daily recaps, too. When a show literally makes me angry while I watch it, it's time for a time out. I can't believe what I'm watching. I can't believe what they're giving us. Ratings are good, especially in relation to other soaps and all of daytime, which means we're not going to get change. It's a shame, though, because I think the ratings would be much better if the show were any good, and that would carry over to B&B and BTG. The only story I care about is Cane& Lily. That's it. Nothing else works or makes sense. 20 years ago, Eric Braeden would never have put up with this shlt writing. He would have mouthed off. Sadly, those days are gone.

There's only a small faction here that's anti-Kat. Many of us like Kat a lot. We know her flaws but also understand her viewpoint. I've always been #TeamKat.

Nikki was diagnosed in Feb. 2013, and Griffith was head writer at the time. Shelly Altman and Tracey Thompson were listed as co-head/associate writers at the time. Griffith left the show in mid-2013.

Today's show was as bad as the rest of the week.

Completely agree.

@carolineg I can't disagree with any of that.

-- I'm just not seeing it, guys. I don't think Lucas and Joe look alike, act alike, or are the same character. The only thing they have in common so far -- in my eyes -- is that both actors are gay. I'm not calling anyone wrong or asking to be convinced. Just wanted to say that I don't see it. -- GH wasn't on fire today, but it and BTG remain the most watchable of the soaps.

I know the Ellisons/Paramount are real Trump lackeys, but I just don't believe they had anything to do with BTG avoiding Juneteenth.

-- Hope is EMBARRASSING. Will she ever grow up and act like an adult? -- That new design room set at Logan is a fail. It reminds me of too many sets on GH and it doesn't resemble anything else at Logan with its aesthetic. -- Every line said to Zende sounds so patronizing.

Just saw this. I appreciate the ribbing 😂 Honestly, I was VERY happy with Beefy RJ With The Tight Slacks And Shirts And Big Bubble Butt. I pouted when they cut him. But life goes on, right? And this RJ hits the spot in all the right spots. He was wiped Will completely out of my mind.

I'm going to disagree with you on this. I understand the points you're making (such as Gosling making that comment a while back), but overall I thought Craig Melvin was very respectful of Deidre, DAYS, and the soap genre. Yes, he played the hits with the comments about demonic possession, comas, and soap slaps, but all of those would be in the opening paragraphs of any Marlena/Deidre Hall bio -- or obituary. Melvin didn't mock any of it, and was kind to her while seeming invested in the interview. He celebrated her 50 years multiple times. The Ryan Gosling stuff was likely new to most people watching. Everyone's not interested in this stuff as much as we are. Why nothing on actor or character deaths? Because it would be a downer. TODAY gave the Hall interview over 6 minutes, as much or more time as big name films and movie stars. I really think the interview worked.

-- Writers needed to do a better job of coming up with a reason for Bill and Hayley not being allowed into their home. A fallen tree? -- I don't understand the reason for saying Leslie's shouse was destroyed. Is this so they can delay adding another set? -- I appreciated Naomi looking completely unimpressed with Hayley's grief over Derek. -- I still say Dani should have taken the morning after pill. She's going to get pregnant and decide to do nothing because she won't know if it's Bill's or Andre's. We're heading for months of Who's The Daddy, I fear. -- Colby Nixon did wonderful work again today, allowing us to understand and feel for Kat when she could have come off as a complete villain. The only people villainizing her are those who already despise Kat. -- TMG has been very good, although I'm side-eyeing her "Kitty Kat, I love you so much" schtick. -- Good to see an emotional moment between Izaiah and Elon, but we still don't really know what the problems were between them in the first place. It's all kind of vague and generic. Oh, except for the Joey Is My Mentor stuff. -- Nicole was kind of over-the-top today, I thought. Her yelling at the nurses station in that scene with Martin and Ted was a bit much.

I agree with you about Aaron. I don't think he's a good actor, but he does bring a dorky likability to the part, and maybe that's enough. I wouldn't want a recast. I agree about Holly, too. Honestly, I think part of me hates to get invested in these characters because of what's coming.

I agree with so much of this. Lami has been doing a good job as Izaiah, but the writing for him is all over the place. I don't know who he is because of that. Why he was tied to Joey, I have no idea. That stuff is horrendous. Once Eva recovers, they need to recover her character, because she hasn't done much at all for a year. Her character has been propped by all the Kat mistakes and attitude, but it hasn't helped the Eva character at all, who seems much smaller than she did. I'm still out on Ashley Jones as Heather, but I think the casting is a gamble, and it's shaky. I don't know that I buy her in this role. Moving Hayley to Y&R would be the death of the Hayley character because Josh Griffith.