5 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Slightly off topic: Y&R needs to offer Jess Walton the moon to return full time.

 

THIS

 

I just said in the spoiler thread that while I'm sure Jess loves her semi-retirement, Jill NEEDS to be on regularly. Period. And NOT fawning over Cane. Lawd. Both Jill and Traci wasted on this man. No thanks. Jess must be thrilled she's around to be jealous of Cane confiding in Traci. RUN JESS RUN! 

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by KMan101

5 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

THIS

 

I just said in the spoiler thread that while I'm sure Jess loves her semi-retirement, Jill NEEDS to be on regularly. Period. And NOT fawning over Cane. Lawd. Both Jill and Traci wasted on this man. No thanks. Jess must be thrilled she's around to be jealous of Cane confiding in Traci. RUN JESS RUN! 

When did Traci become so close to Cane?

 

I wish Mamie was there or even Justin Barber to represent his “closeness” to Dru and Olivia. It’s time to rebuild this family now. 

Ok

11 hours ago, Fevuh said:

What’s sad is the attack on this board for years against Goddard.  Especially now.  They were friends.  I can tell you KSJ would be disappointed in you.  That is all I have to say about that.  How completely awful of you.  

Big Fag here - I have that right and only date black men.  

 

Wrong! KSJ went on record more than once to complain how he had to play supporting to CK and DG. He did not like it himself. He thought that he, and Neil, earned better. He'd be proud of me for pointing this out for the world to see. He outright asked the Hevon fans on Twitter to fight for all Black actors the way they fought for BJ/Devon and MiM/Hilary. It was never personal for him. That was business. Doesn't mean he didn't love CK and DG. 

14 minutes ago, Dr Neil Curtis said:

When did Traci become so close to Cane?

 

I wish Mamie was there or even Justin Barber to represent his “closeness” to Dru and Olivia. It’s time to rebuild this family now. 

 

It's absolute BS they haven't offered the moon to Victoria Rowell. How can we get Steve Kent fired? 

 

Tonya should still be on the show. It's crap she's not around too.

 

Y&R doesn't seem to know Justin exists ... he's in his B&B bubble.

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by KMan101

9 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I understand the complaints about Cane and the writing for that character, but after awhile it just seems like overkill, especially because it also bled into personal attacks on Daniel Goddard by some people. 

 

DG isn’t my favorite actor and Cane isn’t one of my favorites, either, but DG is not a bad guy. His open grief for Kristoff seems authentic to me, and I do think they were close. If KSJ was good friends with DG, then Goddard must be all right.

 

Does he self-promote on social media? Yeah. So what. He has a family to support and he likes his job. Daytime roles are hard to snag, so I don’t  blame Goddard for trying to hold on to his. I don’t think there’s a mean bone in that guy’s body, and seeing some of the ugly comments about him makes me cringe.

 

Re: racist comments. I DON’T think it’s racist to comment about the writing for Cane as a lead in stories about a black family.  I do, however, think it’s a little indelicate to label him a “mediocre white man” more than once. It’s not what is said, but how it’s said.

 

When I read that black characters should be leads in black families and stories, I react positively. When “instead of mediocre white men” is included? It doesn’t register the same way. I nod my head and agree with everything said about black characters not getting good stories or enough airtime, and about the lack of minorities BTS and on writing staffs. I agree with it all, only to read “mediocre white man.” 

 

Is Cane a mediocre white man? Yeah. Not the point. No, you don’t have to care about my feelings and reaction. The thing is, you don’t have to throw shade, either.

 

Please don’t lecture me with “Now you know what black people experience every day.” That doesn’t make it ok for minorities to take the same low road.  I hope I’m not miscommunicating my point. I really do think racism is a huge problem in this country. It’s horrific, and I cannot imagine what people of color go through every day. I cannot imagine the worry of raising children in families of color.

 

i just like to think we’re better than that here. I like to think we can be respectful of each other.

 

That's not something I would ever say. Ever. I get you're explanation and how it makes you feel. Surely wasn't my intention. 

Cane is a total waste. He needs to be axed. Why they cling to him I'll never understand. With Nate and Devon, you DO NOT need Cane being the lead of the show's African American family. It's BS.

 

Very few on here personally attack DG. He does indeed seem like a very nice guy but he plays to his fanbase. I can't fault him, a lot of stars do. While I like many actors as people, it doesn't mean their character is anyway needed.

 

Cane's the lead of the Barber/Winters clan. He's basically the lead of the Chancellor clan as Billy sticks in his Victoria orbit ... I'm SO tired of Cane. I've never cared for the character (only during the Juliet story did I start to come around, but then of course it all went to hell)

 

Like a lot of us agreed on, they missed the boat basically making Cane a Brad 2.0. 

 

And the Lily/Cane breakup feels hollow. They should have split up a LOOOOOONG time ago over many other things. (Actually, I'd have NEVER paired them)

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by KMan101

35 minutes ago, Dr Neil Curtis said:

When did Traci become so close to Cane?

 

I wish Mamie was there or even Justin Barber to represent his “closeness” to Dru and Olivia. It’s time to rebuild this family now. 

 

That's a recent development. By recent, I mean in the last 3 weeks 

1 hour ago, DeeeDee said:

Slightly off topic: Y&R needs to offer Jess Walton the moon to return full time.

It was a no brainer to make her a fixture of GC again when Jeanne Cooper passed away. We all know what Jess Walton got to do the last couple of years instead. Still shocking that we have to thank JFP to convince JW to return in the first place (on this ridiculous low recurring capacity).

IMO you'll never get Walton back on contract. She has a taste of retirement and clearly likes it.

And I think JWs let the show know it. No worries, they've attached Cane to another wealthy long time beloved character in Tracy. At least she doesn't have any children to slight 

Edited April 27, 20196 yr by ajsp35801

No other character in Y&R's history went from buffing nails to the boardroom.  Jill Foster Abbott was what the American dream (from what American lore likes to promote itself as being) is supposed to embody.  When JW was committed to a full-time schedule, she should have been running Chancellor and competing with and collaborating with the likes of Abbott and Newman Enterprises, instead of those silly storylines like the horrible music box storyline and being saddled with Colin.  Now I doubt JW trust TIIC at Y&R/Sony enough to commit to anything beside the occasional appearance.

 

VR seems a bit more receptive to a return or perhaps she doesn't want to say anything to put a damper on fans' hopes.  The best time to have brought Drucilla back would've been when Yolanda/Harmony and Neil were getting close and Sarge was on the canvas. If ever there was a reason for a good ole' amnesia storyline, that would've been it!  Drucilla (under a different name) could have been Sarge's wife, living in an adjacent town until one day...there were so many different possibilities to flesh that one out and two big time "supercouples" in a story like that?!  Unfortunately, that will never happen.  

 

 

Just watching Friday’s episode, and I like how they’re playing Lily’s inability to put on the brave, happy face. Sometimes soaps go overboard with the “let’s celebrate the departed character’s life” cheerfulness.

 

Loving the flashbacks so far.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

IMO you'll never get Walton back on contract. She has a taste of retirement and clearly likes it.

As much as I love JW, I think the character of Jill is so needed on the show, full-time. Dare I say a recast? Although, I'm sure the show would never invest in it.

Personally I was very moved by the song that Ana sang...about the World Turning.  Or when it stops turning.  Which was a much better show all around.  Was glad for that acknowlegment. 

 

 

3 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

Ok

 

Wrong! KSJ went on record more than once to complain how he had to play supporting to CK and DG. He did not like it himself. He thought that he, and Neil, earned better. He'd be proud of me for pointing this out for the world to see. He outright asked the Hevon fans on Twitter to fight for all Black actors the way they fought for BJ/Devon and MiM/Hilary. It was never personal for him. That was business. Doesn't mean he didn't love CK and DG. 

But you called out the white guy.  Instead of him playing supporting to CK.  ??? 

4 hours ago, Dr Neil Curtis said:

When did Traci become so close to Cane?

 

I wish Mamie was there or even Justin Barber to represent his “closeness” to Dru and Olivia. It’s time to rebuild this family now. 

I think Mamie needs to be recast and brought back. that family needs her.