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  1. Just in time for Billy to star in the story alongside Rambo, ahem, I meant Chance. I wish I could care. I don't.
  2. Phyllis versus Abby over Chance is such a downgrade for MS. Not near as WTF as Abby versus Sharon (Scottie) but still feels out of place. They aren't even contemporaries. This might be worth while if it was centered on the Nina and Phyllis history. But Abby just isn't the cog to make this go. While I like MO and her Abby, it's so daytime to be able to find story after story for her yet can't see any future for Loren or her Ana when she and her character could run several circles around MO/Abby in every department, including being interesting onscreen.
  3. Well...lol Do you think Adam and Chelsea have chemistry? I don't think the show wants Amanda in Nate's orbit. I mean, they did at first but the story has turned on a dime away from that. It appears they want to use her to give the characters they really care about story, i.e Billy. And they have Devon obsessed over her where she's not even aware of his existence half the time. Theo shouldn't have been so easily accepted by Abbots. It seems there's more story available if he's not. I saw a clip of Abby and chance. I didn't hate it. But it still wasn't much. Seems like from what I read, Abby and chance are together so Phyllis and chance can get together.
  4. Awe...I miss discussions here too. I came on today to see what you all thought of the show.
  5. I haven't watched the show in so long. But I do read recaps and see the pictures and occasional clip. Chelsea never gets any flack. Whoever said that her having to answer for choices would be better soap is correct. They clearly took what was to be Nate's story with Amanda and gave it to Billy. JT just isn't good in this role. I regret that mishael is stuck with him at the moment.
  6. Wasn't she still producing Y&R recently? I recall seeing the name.
  7. "What is past is prologue" Amanda = Hilary Nate = Devon Elena = Lily Devon = Cane Trident (Billy) = Neil who will get with Amanda while Nate pines then fights for her All the while Elena and Devon will be self righteous a$$ hats who play angst for the story. Mostly Elena the same way Lily did despite the fact that Elena doesn't have near the reason to hate Amanda that Lily did Hilary. Nor does she have that deep of a relationship with Nate to justify harassing him over who he chooses to dates unless she wants him herself...which takes us to the added bonus, Elena isn't related to Nate so the show can go there. Mind you, this time around it won't have near the same results. That was the perfect unintentional storm, so to speak. The show found some of its greatest success in years with the black cast telling that Hevon story. They will surely try to repeat it. But with Nate as leading instead of Devon because for whatever reason, TPTB doesn't want Bryton as a lead alongside Mishael.
  8. That's true. He would have definitely posted it. I'm surprised Bryton didn't put something together.
  9. They didn't even attempt to play the same boring stories they've played over and over for those other characters with devon. At least on Devon it might seem fresh and new. Why not give him the mentally ill stalking woman that Jack usually gets. Why not??!!
  10. Nope! But then Jack is no longer the lead he once was. He's a secondary character used to serve story Kyle. That might be why. I doubt Devon gets that money back without his fans lodging a big campaign. It seems several writers have wanted him poor. Striving.
  11. I doubt they have sex and I'm sure it's his alter lol
  12. If anything happens with Billy and Amanda, it'll be his alter Trident involved. It won't be real for him. I fear they'll fall back on old ways and use Mishael as a lighting rod to jump off stories and characters they truly care about with Amanda as the villain. Though, I guess it's a trade off. At least she will get the story avd airtime. Something Elena has surely been denied.
  13. I recall vividly. That was during the Carmen Mesta drama. I also read a spoiler that Elena and Nate wish for a Christmas miracle. Makes me think Devon's life is on the line somehow.
  14. At this point, I'd rather see Cane murdered in a whodunit that gets Devon blamed then we find out it was Billy's alter at the end if a trial than to have Cane just leave town with Devon's money. I can see the second scenario happening since this show is obsessed with black folks being poor and trying to claw their way to the top, which was Hilary's through line despite being married to a billionaire. She was written to take nothing in the divorce ensure she remained poor.
  15. This is so bittsweet. Sweet because we are finally free of him. Bitter because the Winters family is so reduced, which precipitated his departure. That picture he posted tells the story. No Neil, no Lily, no Charlie and Matilda, not even Devon.
  16. +1 The whole show is a big nothing burger. Not showing Nate's hearing was the biggest indication to me that the whole things being half done. I would say budget reasons but they hired a named actor for this Chelsea story. So my guts says they just didn't want to spend the money on those particular characters. Speaking of Lauren and Michael, can someone please explain to me why they aren't allowed to have story?
  17. No,that's not being played and it's to the detriment of these characters. Moreso, Nate than Devon since Devon is established already. That was my earlier complaint....maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. They seem to find money for the hospital when they want to put victor or Lola in the bed. Lol If the show us going to have full time characters as doctors, they need to have consistent medical drama to accompany that. Much like they manage to have constant crime when they have someone they care about working in the police station.
  18. Yes, I recall Nate and cane having words all the while Nate and Devon not talking about it themselves. Lol If this is working for you, good. But you don't have to try to convince me that everything is just fine. JG is half assing this. Much like he's half assing Phyllis and MS's return. She seems like such a pointless character but that's another conversation. Me pointing it out is certainly not because I don't like Devon, Elena, Amanda, or Nate.
  19. I'm one of them who just wanted Mishael back. However, I understand that most viewers aren't me and may not feel that way. Which is why I'm critiquing the character and looking at things from the eyes of someone who may not be a super fan. I want this to work and her to have the best chance to succeed. Regardless of what's being said, Devon and Nate are not close and the show hasn't tried to even create a closeness. I had hopes that the show would use Neil and Malcolm as a model, sans the woman sharing, for their relationship. But so far, very little effort has been put into it. On every survey that the show had requested feedback, I've asked for Nate and Devon as younger generation bearers of the Barber/Winters family. It seems the show heard me but have no idea how to go about it. Do you really expect JG to deliver interesting? After watching the last year, you expect writing to buoy Amanda? I didn't say that Elena took Devon's place. She can't take something that never existed. The show never tried to create a relationship with Devon and Nate. Nate was brought on to be Mishael's character's leading man. After Hilary's death and even a recast, we are exactly where the show wanted Nate Hastings. They don't care about Devon and Nate's relationship.
  20. Why do viewers care about Amanda's past? We've got to care about her to care about her past. Amanda and Nate have the same problem for me that Rey/Mia/Arturo had. New characters with no ties (Nate does but...) in story together. I wish they'd bring on Olivia for an arc to help build Nate. I agree that I don't need all 4 POC in story together. But i think you missed my point. Devon and Nate are related. They should be interacting on some level. Instead the show keeps them apart in favor of playing Elena and Nate. That's sorta odd to me. There is no conflict because neither character is built up enough for it. They are trying to use Elena which doesn't make any sense at all unless she wants Nate herself but that isn't being played. Like I said, I like the chemistry and the look onscreen but there needs to be more than that for investment.
  21. Chemistry. Pretty. Could be a fantastic couple. Love what little I saw. But people need a reason to care about them and right now I don't see one. They are already in need of something to do besides each other. They have no connections to anyone in town except Nate's to Devon... which Nate and Devon don't interact. Elena interacts with Nate and Devon but they don't with each other. Seems weird but whatever.
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