Members JaneAusten Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 Its just fashionable to hate him I think. Seriously McTavish IMO was far worse. Banana pancakes, the unabortion, the Cambias crap, endless Babe propping. Ugh. He did raise ratings I think during his time there. NO his writing really didn't work for AMC, but he did kill off Babe which was a win win for me. I think the unabortion was worse than those 3 things combined. It turned a groundbreaking story into a complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 but is that the worse that AMC has done in recent years? If I had to pick one, Brown and Estensten were the least favorable. Honestly though, all since MMT have been on an equal level, with none really better or worse in my eyes. Ive enjoyed a bit from the various runs and hated quite a bit as well. I guess it falls down to what I can remember at the moment. Broderick's brief stint is the only one that was muddled down with crap. The rest had their highs and lows. Its hard to pinpoint one as the cause of AMC's fatal blow. I idnt find Pratt any more damaging than the rest That was a case of staying too long bc I felt MMT had a solid good year and a half to 2 years with the show and then it all went downhill. She lost all steam after the babyswitch. She actually made me drop the show sometime before the Satin Slayer story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I guess I had no attachment to Erica's abortion story. Did I understand the importance of the story? Yes. But it was something I had only ever read about. I had watched Marian and Stuart for years, and they were two of my favorite characters. My reward for investing in them over the years, separately and together, was for Stuart to be murdered by his own brother in a stupor, and for Marian to open fire in a courtroom and be taken to St. Anne's, and ceasing to exist. And there was no real drama in any of this, unless you count the "drama" of Erica participating in schemes against Adam that almost killed him. All Pratt had to do was say "They're moving away..." and that would have been OK with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 This is Pratt who put AJ on a meathook, had his own son as a child smother him, wrote some of the most pornlike rape scenes ever seen, thought it was romantic to get Carly shot in the head by Sonny while giving birth. NOthing he did shocked me. I hated what he did to Stuart but there was no way he was going to leave a legacy character just walk off screen. Pratt and Guza were one of a kind. He killed off Babe and corrected that unabortion crap. Did it balance out the crap no but he was by no means worse than McTavish who also destroyed Tad for a period of time with that buried alive nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 It was worse for me, because I had hated Tad years before the Madden story. I also didn't really see what he did as correcting the unabortion story, because the story is still there. All he did was have Zach basically murder someone in order to get a heart. I thought it was crass and seemed to be more about his need to turn Zach into a Sonny type of "hero" than much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I guess I didn;t care about Zach doing that because the character never should have been there to begin with. That to me was the least offensive of what Pratt did. The Reese story was putrid, having Adam kill Stuart terrible, and having Liza sleep with Zach on her first episode. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 I didn't have any strong opinion of Josh, I just hated the way the story was put together. It was so clumsy (Josh has out of nowhere been embezzling for years) and bloodthirsty, and it had that awful faux "edginess" that you also get with stuff like Michael suffocating AJ (before it was rewritten). I don't think Pratt killed AMC though. He may have damaged the spirit of the show, but that spirit is still there, in places. Disney and Frons are the ones who butchered the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 15, 2011 Members Share Posted June 15, 2011 IA. AMC doesnt feel dead and its far from unrepairable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted July 15, 2011 Members Share Posted July 15, 2011 I feel like for AMC it hit the skids around 2005 and it never got back on track it has only gotten worse from 2009 onward to the point where I don't even feel like I am watching AMC. Too many identifiable characters have gone and there has been such a bleed of younger talent as well that there is little to no point in investing in the new characters. I also think so many characters have lived beyond their usefulness in terms of story and worse yet so many characters have been ridden so hard into the ground that there is just nothing left of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juppiter Posted July 16, 2011 Members Share Posted July 16, 2011 ATWT -- honestly, Y&R getting rid of most of its black characters killed ATWT. CBS daytime ratings fell after that and never really recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ParkWestfan Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 OMG - I wholeheartedly agree with everything on this list! And I'd add to the useless character list - Gabriel and Blackie - who came onto the canvas AFTER THE CANCELLATION NOTICE. No excuse for it, really, and still chaps my behind. Also, my HM: recasting Meredith Hagner. That brat and her mother should have never made it to the very end. They weren't even a blip in the ATWT history (only coming on the show in spring of 2008) to warrant an 'end storyline'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Money Posted July 18, 2011 Members Share Posted July 18, 2011 OLTL - The never ending Evangeline/John/Natalie triangle of suck. BB - 2002/2003 was the turning point the show went downhill and never recovered. I agree with others that Thorne and Brook were fantastic. The build up was great and then inexplicably Brooke did a 180 and became all about Ridge again. Then the entire show became about Bridge and Brooke's sexploits. YR - Dru's death. Love her or hate her Drucilla was gold. PSNNS - Timmy's death but the show still had life. All things Vincent was the death knell GH - Guza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted July 18, 2011 Members Share Posted July 18, 2011 You know, AMC was on a downward spiral, I hate to admit, for a long time, and when Pratt came on, his first month or so I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it (early on he had some terrific comedy for example). But in hindsight, I truly think Pratt's stuff was the fatal, no turning back, blow for AMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AllMyDaysatGH Posted July 18, 2011 Members Share Posted July 18, 2011 I really enjoyed September/October/November 2008 AMC. After that I don't think there was one good story, though I do think there were a lot of good moments. IMO Pratt's worst story was his last one which was basically the destruction of Aiden. I cannot get over how bad that whole story with Kendall/Zach/Aiden was. Just horrid. I dreaded watching AMC. These Erica/Kendall scenes made me HATE, yes HATE Kendall even though she didn't mean it. They were well acted though. It was just beyond stupid!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted July 18, 2011 Members Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yeah early stuff was good. The prob was Pratt showed why he did his best work at Melrose. It was so plot driven, all the middle moments were missing, and characters would change personality to suit plot at the flip of a switch. And you had stuff liek Zach taking Josh's heart (no matter the fact that Josh suddenly resented everyone for no reason) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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