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  1. On a reality show, you're expected to forgive and move on when another housewife does something to you. I find that so bizarre as that's not the way life works. I'm all for Candaice not getting over it because that's real. However, I don't like milking it and seeing it as an opportunity and I'm someone who clearly thought Monique was in the wrong. I think the other women are being disingenuous, but Candaice is not making herself look good. She reminds me of Kim Richards when Rinna attacked. KR could have had the moral high ground but she was such a ghastly liar that she allowed a crying Rinna to get the sympathy. Candaice should take notes. I will say this: my belief is that you never really have to go after another HW because they always bring about their own downfall. I'm thinking of Kelly Dodd, Jill, Kim, Nene, Phaedra (rewatching some of ATL and she was awful. How was she liked?), etc.
  2. I don't know how to embed videos, but is this the Leeann Locken from RHOD at 13:19? Like Garcelle, Leeann appears to have started her career on Star Search: Leeann Locken on Star Search?
  3. re: Oc Ratings I don't know if it was getting rid of Tamra and Vicki so much as the trailer being so dull. IF the trailer had been exciting, I think there would have been a stronger need to watch the show. The trailer was dud so it gave people a reason to tune out. Granted, what could they possibly have done in the short time they had to film? The trips on OC were often the best parts of the show, and what are they going to do this season? A toilet paper run? When you couple that with Kelly's off screen shenanigans, I think people looked for excuses not to watch so many of the people who wanted Tamra and Vicki gone now backtracked. I was glad to see Vicki go, but I would have gotten rid of Shannon instead of Tamra.
  4. Wow. The ratings were extremely low for RHOC. I saw some of the Braunwyn stuff which looks compelling and engrossing. IT shows what the show can capable of providing, but I still don't want to give my time to this show. I don't have the energy or the interest to watch MAGA housewives when so many people are scared out of their minds with worry. The fans really irk me. They were all about getting rid of Tamra and Vicki after last season, but now they want them back. This is why Bravo never listens to fans, and it's why they refuse to make any significant changes to RHOBH. I don't think the ratings were down because of Vicki being gone since Vicki was sidelined last season. They were down because people were turned off by Kelly's mouth and racist attitudes, and many of us don't want to support MAGA people right now. Kelly is a prime example of letting your enemy hang herself--a lesson Monique should take to heart. I was in favor of Kelly last season, but her behavior during COVID and her MAGA racist stuff turned me right off. I don't want to waste my time watching a HW romance someone from FoxNews. As much as I think Emily is underrated, a big part of me would not feel comfortable watching her right now because I know she'd vote for someone who supports taking every possible right away from me. Who knew Braunwyn would be getting the love this season while the fans turn on other housewives?
  5. While Vicki is probably not wrong (Although I do think Emily has a lot of potential), it's hard to take Vicki seriously when she was a disaster last year, and her reunion appearance was horrific. She got herself fired, and she's the biggest hypocrite when it comes to Braunwyn. A modern marriage versus participating in a cancer scam? I know which one I would prefer. If anyone has the right to attack the show, it's Tamra who kept the show going the last few years with her pot stirring.
  6. In regards to RHOP, was this originally a different show? The first season premiere seemed so different, and Karen was an absolute mess with all her etiquette talk and having a hissy about Gizelle being in the middle of the booth. I'm so not a Karen fan. I think she's just as fake as people attack Gizelle for being. Speaking of Gizelle, do you think she brought Jamal on this show to humiliate him? If it was for a fake storyline, she is smart enough to know her father and her daughters were not going to play along, and she has known for a while that her father badmouthed Jamal. I can't shake the feeling the Gizelle/Jamal story was fake, but it was fake to get her revenge on him. It also makes her look like a victim when his nonsense comes to light. Leah is fine, but she's not why I tune in. I prefer Tinsley but that princess cruise has sailed. I tune in for Luann at this point. Sonja and Ramona I can do without (as we've seen lately, Sonja is one way on camera and one way off), but I think Luann is so three dimensional and has given so much to the show in the way of storyline and her personal life. The others have guarded themselves in various ways. Luann would never have pulled a Ramona "Shut it down" at the reunion when asked about anything. She may not have always been upfront, but she at least never kept certain things off camera like Bethenny, Dorinda, Ramona, and Sonja did.
  7. JAmal Bryant is a disgusting human being in so many ways. I'm not surprised about the gay marriage thing. I hope Gizelle would speak out against this as Porsha did about her preaching against gay men. If Gizelle wants to keep her job, I'm sure she'll give lip service to gay rights the way Porsha did when her controversy broke out.
  8. I appreciate you and @Taoboi responding in kind. I think it's important to have discussions like this in a positive way even when we disagree. I think why the fight bothers me so much is the unspoken idea that a mouthy woman deserves to get popped. That to me is what is behind a lot of the pro-Monique tweets/comments I've seen. I'm not suggesting all obviously, but this whole "she deserved to get her butt whupped" or "Where I come from, we'd have knocked her teeth in" is disgusting. I'm sure if the people who say these things would have to acknowledge what this really means and what it supports, they might not say it in that way, but they still said those things. I'm unnerved by that kind of thinking. I also think you pinpointed why I blame Monique. She has a lot of rage, and it's not just at Candaice. IT's at so many people and you can see even in her scenes with Chris that she has a lot of anger. I don't think anything Candaice said/did had anything to do with that fight. Monique came in there hot, and she wanted to fight. Did Candaice make it better? No, but in the past few episodes, Candaice had done everything she should have done. She even handled the Ashley situation with discretion and tact. She apologized to Monique repeatedly even about stuff that she shouldn't have apologized for. Do I like Candaice? Eh. As a gay man, she's not one of my faves. I'm suspicious of her. I think what also makes me suspicious of Monique is that she lied about the fight, lied about the blogs, and she continues to misrepresent things. IF you're not going to be honest about why you attacked someone (the rumor), I don't care about you. We all know she planted the stories. You wrote something that is very true. Candaice and Monique are very much alike. I will say that I think Chris is one of the better housewife husbands, but I don't feel much affection between Chris and Monique.
  9. I do think people are making light of what Monique did. I've read endless "I hope she got Candaice good," "Candaice deserved a whipping," "Keep it up Monique! Punch Gizelle!" I found that mindset deeply troubling. I think some people are excusing Monique because of who she attacked. If it had been Karen, would people be so quick to excuse her actions?? I know I'm in a losing battle with this point since most of the people on this board are pro-Monique, but I think what Monique did was horrible. When you are so angry that you black out, have to be restrained, and then run off to kill someone, you need serious help. In real life, I would never feel safe around someone like that. KAren and Ashley were always going to side with Monique and Gizelle and Robin were going to side against Monique. I don't see why one standpoint is more troubling than the other. I'm not a Candaice fan, so this isn't about her at all. I look sideways at her since the tweets, but if Denise could keep her cool and not punch anyone in the coven, Monique could restrain herself. Am I wrong, or wasn't Monique in a drunk driving incident and it was reported that she had lied about it? Or was it another Potomac housewife? Now we know Monique lied about giving the information to the blogs. I also think anything Monique brings to the reunion about JAmal is going to be redundant. We all know he's scum. Nothing could be as devastating as what Gizelle's father said.
  10. If Gizelle, Wendy and Robyn had their minds up, can't we say the same about Ashley and Karen? I thought Robyn and Wendy made excellent points. Blacking out, having to be restrained in a stairwell, and then running to attack the person??? That is some serious stuff, and as I've said, I find it frightening that so many people think it's perfectly acceptable. I was not here for Rinna throwing the glass and trying to strangle Kim (and I can't stand Kim) and I'm not here for Monique until she goes through anger management. Tamra must be cackling to herself every day. Kelly is a prime example of why you don't need to raise your hands to someone. In most cases, these housewives ALWAYS reveal themselves. They always stumble when they think they are the HBIC. They always go one step too far, and then the truth comes out.
  11. I agree with everyone about one thing: The RHOP episode was fantastic. IT was probably the best single HW ep. I've seen in a long time. It's second season of RHOBH quality. I don't agree with everyone about anything else. The fact that Monique blacked out is scary, and that she still doesn't really take accountability is troubling to me. I'm sorry. I'm not of the "beat her ass" school when someone acts like a spoiled brat in front of someone. Are we now going to need a referee for the shows? IS it now going to be okay to punch a fellow housewife when they get "mouthy?" I find that such a scary attitude especially where we are at in the world. The world has gone mad, and I don't want to see housewives duking it out. As the show clearly laid out, Candaice had been trying to deal with Monique in a straightforward way, but Monique was the one causing problems and looking for a fight. I'm sure it had more to do with off-camera stuff because I could not understand Monique's hostility. I also find Monique's running after her to be beyond the pale. I'm not a Candaice fan especially after her homophobic comments were revealed, but Monique needs serious therapy.. I'm not a Karen fan, but I thought she was fine. I thought Wendy made the most sense, and she was talking sense that Monique just didn't want to listen to. However, I will take Gizelle over KAren any day. She makes this show: bringing the bodyguard, the notes, connecting Monique's past (so she can help editors), walking off, etc. Gizelle is truly the star of the show. She's what Kyle aspires to be, but will never be.
  12. I think some viewers and Bravo tend to think that housewives like Cynthia are boring, but I think they're the foundation for what makes a good reality show. You need the housewives who are willing to share their lives and that aren't always trying to be colorful or out of control for the paycheck. Speaking of: I have been watching past RHOA clips, and I have no clue why Phaedra was so popular. She was such a fake and a liar. IT was so obvious, but people ate it up. I don't get it. I do get why Apollo was popular. Yum.
  13. Braunwyn comes under attack for supporting Black Lives Matter and COVID safety? Who at Bravo thinks that this is going to go over well with a majority of the viewers???? Did anyone else catch Nene on Tamron Hall? Talk about fake tears. Nene was an absolute mess and Tamra was trying to help her, but wow, it was bad. Potomac is truly the best RH show right now. I know everyone was waiting for the fight, but I think the hot mic moment was more shocking and more interesting. I don't want to see women physically fighting.
  14. I'm another one who thinks Peggy was unfairly axed. I thought it was great how she stood up to Shannon. I've never liked Shannon and Lydia/Peggy coming for her was great. I felt the season took a nosedive around the trip because it felt oddly edited as if they we were leaving out the context of so many of the scenes. We now know the editors and Bravo were protecting Kelly so I'm wondering if there was more ISIS type comments made and that's why the editing was so choppy. Compare the Ireland trip to Iceland and the editing is vastly different. I'm not Lydia fan, but she got to Shannon so it was fun to watch. Like Carlton/Joyce in season four of RHOBH, Peggy and Lydia were blamed for the show's problems when it was the other women. I'm not in the mood for MAGA housewives. The new housewife and her "we need to respect all opinions" b.s. already has me checked out. Racism is not like debating the difference between rocky road and mint chocolate chop ice cream. While I do like Emily and I think she was a hidden gem of the last season, I don't want political talk of the MAGA kind on a hw show. I don't think it was Vicki being phased out/fired that ruined the show. I don't think the show ever recovered from the Detective MEghan finds out Brooks doesn't have cancer season. Vicki and Brooks were so disgusting that it cast a pall over future seasons. Since Vicki was never honest, there was no way she could ever really come back to be the main focus she used to be. I know a lot of people wanted Tamara gone, but I still feel it should have been Shannon. She was horrific the last few years. She only looks in comparison to her ex and Vicki. Tamara (for all of her faults) knew how to play the game, but she overplayed her hand at a time when Bravo was looking to cut costs. I think they'll regret it.
  15. Most if not all of this is Nene's doing. I don't feel sorry for her. Her performance at last year's reunion was atrocious. That right here should have meant the end for her. Vicki's chances were certainly killed by the lawsuit and her horrific reunion behavior. Did Nene think she would be different after threatening lawsuits and calling AC a racist? Nene had more chances than most housewives get. I think Porsha is partly responsible for this. As she became more popular (although why that is baffles me), there was really no need for Nene. I'm sure Nene was furious Porsha got the new chat show she's on. Why would Bravo put up with NEne's shenanigans if they have Porsha? They're over Nene. It is telling to me that even scummy rapist apologist Lisa Bloom didn't take on Nene's case.
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