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Lord. I'll have to listen to this.

Oh, I didn't realize they got married that first go-round. My mistake. The whole Tom Baldwin return in the mid-'70s seems ridiculous to me though. How many doomed or dead love interests did Lee go through before Gail BTW? Not counting Meg. IIRC both his wife and teenage stepson died before Gail.

He's still better than her, and he has no idea where he is most days!

Jordan is beautiful but can't act to save her life. She is the worst actor I've seen on this show next to Oscar Nero (who's still rotting in hell as we type). Jordan as a character has never actually been a character, merely functional - even when Vinessa Antoine played her. I'd rather see someone like Keesha Ward added back with some kids or relations, and see Jordan and T.J. both sent to the cornfield (along with Molly, Sidwell, Chase and at least a dozen other people). I'd put Isaiah with Lucas or another woman - or both! That is actually a great idea, though I wouldn't quite go for it as I prefer to keep Cody (for Tracy, I'll never give up). I would save Willow's fake cancer for another go-round, when she has to find a way to wriggle out of various misdeeds lol.

Appreciated!

I thought the flood has been up for many years. I just never got around to watching it.

Who was writing in the '79 episode posted a bit earlier? I can never keep track of the Corringtons and the BTS twists and turns on this show. Didn't they come and go a few times?

I knew she was gone but I didn't know why. So strange.

Why they kept Audrey and Steve apart so long is beyond me. By the time you get to Jim Hobart (or Tom Baldwin's return) it just seems like burnt embers.

I may be wrong and I certainly don't know enough Ryan's Hope history or backstory to be certain, but IIRC Carlivati did actually make sure to slot in Ava's conception to a time prior to RH itself. Delia had a rather detailed explanation onscreen which involved her coming back to New York after having Ava, then either getting involved with Pat, marrying Frank, etc. Whether that timetable contradicted the show's backstory I can't say. At least it wasn't as tossed off as Sasha and Cody's lineage.

I was just rewatching Patricia Breslin (Meg #1) in the Twilight Zone classic episode "Nick of Time" with William Shatner. These eps are all a blessing - I'm just now getting to them.

At least on OLTL she had the whole angle of Ben being her ex to come in on, and she didn't pretend she was a Buchanan with longtime deep relationships with all these people. She had her own all-new (and annoying) relationships and stories with people she met. But I agree she was very tiresome at my main show too.

She wouldn't. I don't mind her coming in from time to time for short stints to stir up trouble, I think that role has worked for the character in the past. But Skye has never had a sensible long-term place on the show and the more RC sneered and vamped her way through scenes acting as though she knew these people for decades, the worse it got. It drove me insane when a year or two in she would ramble on about "good old Grandfather/Tracy/whoever..." Bitch, you don't know them! I would probably bring on Lila Rae at some point though.

The latest blooper reel is a hoot. The Robin/Roscoe Born clip at the beginning is particularly interesting as Robin has been very candid that they did not get along though she appreciated his talent.

JFP did many terrible things enumerated above when she had actual power, but I don't think she had much of it again at GH after 2001. I think she facilitated for Frons and Guza most of the time from then on. I blame the bulk of personnel decisions, etc. on those two in those years (2002-2011), particularly Frons. And yes, caroline about summed it up re: Vanessa and FV.

IIRC it was about Bo and Alex Masters meeting up re: either the Men of 21 or that other terrorist after Patrick Thornhart. I may be wrong. Was it really after The City was off??

I think I saw the Princi/Canary scenes not long ago. Can't recall where.

@EricMontreal22 was kind enough to share some material in the Loving thread re: ABC crossovers - I had no idea Antonio/KDLR was floated to potentially move to Port Charles after his first OLTL exit, or that Joe Lando campaigned for Jake Harrison and his buddy Lucky to move to GH.

These are wild. I had no idea about Antonio or Jake.

I might have to revisit the Lorraine story on The City, but I'm not even sure if much of it is on YT or available. I think she comes in around Christmas or New Year's '95, a couple months after Loving ended? She was a major favorite of mine in the LOV rewatch, and I remember liking her with Roscoe/Nick BITD but not much else.

Again, agreed with all of the above. I hope the situation at GH changes someday. (And I still wouldn't be shocked if she stunted with an appearance on BTG, lol)

Michael T. Weiss was insanely hot on DS. I never got over it as a kid, despite being about JGL's age lol. (I had a crush on him a little later too) I thought Barbara Blackburn was amazing as Carolyn too, but I've never seen her again. I even liked Ely Pouget's pagan bohemian version of Maggie, because it was a unique and distinct character. They did kill off way too people in that first season, in keeping with Dan Curtis patterning a ton of that storyline after House of Dark Shadows which was his own speedrun version of 1967 DS. There was no need to kill off Joe Haskell. The buzz was that they did it in the hopes of introducing Weiss as either Chris Jennings the werewolf, or the reincarnation of Peter Bradford or both, but there were ways to do those same things with Joe. I haven't seen the WB pilot in years but I remember PJ Hogan(?) doing very interesting things with the lighting and style, though I remember virtually nothing else. I should revisit it. The thing that sticks with me the most about DS '91 and still the scariest thing in it IMO, was the initial manifestation of Angelique, as a screaming/laughing spectre that bursts out of Barnabas' fireplace. That terrified me. They had the foresight this time around to layer in Angelique from the beginning and did so, and you didn't hear about her again til Vicki went back to 1795. I watched it again recently, it's still scary (and timestamped below)! The music is great too.

Which is why I keep saying you can get a year or two more at least of hellraising out of sprung and vengeful Willow, then it's time to toss her a la Susan Moore! We keep talking about characters like Stone or Mary Mae who still have the juice and impact after only a couple years (or Lois for that matter, whose original run was fairly short) but what that proves is that finite characters and stories (whether intended or not) can have a real purpose - not unlike, say, the doomed socialite Harding Lemay introduced on AW back in the '70s whose name escapes me, whose death on the patio or whatever people still talk about today. Drew I am agnostic on keeping or not keeping for the same reasons, but it is undeniable that the scandal saga of him and Willow is the only organic, interesting drama the show currently has. It's not entirely what Mulcahey had intended but a lot of it can really work. Instead they too often want to rush to the next stupid thing cueball Sidwell does, right down to literally copying the same exact things they did with Cyrus a little over a year ago (him eavesdropping on Nina in church = Sidwell eavesdropping on Sasha in church). Absolutely.

I actually think she would've stayed if Frons had not played hardball on her very reasonable request for time off for her baby in 2003. I think it was you who said she had one day offscreen between September '02 and her exit. 2011 I suspect may have been a similar situation, but by that time ABC had made the decision to nuke the soap line-up and it was all Frons could do to keep GH on the air before losing his own job as well. Nobody was checking for Vanessa that spring-summer. And today they're clearly not interested.

Yes, I forgot to mention that this ep is a lovely showcase for both Leslie and Stuart Damon. I've been reviewing a lot of Leslie's key eras lately (including the Lassa Fever saga, and the subsequent quad with Rick, Alan, Lesley, etc. I've seen before, as well as her affair with Sean Donely) but her work throughout the cancer drama is stuff I hadn't watched since I was a kid. And it's still very good. I loved how Edward still called Laura 'young lady' too. There is a throughline back to the young woman (barely an adult) who answered his phones at ELQ.