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Thanks!

Again, I have my doubts FV has any devotion to Britt at this point given KT's many BTS antics. I think his only real interest there is in her extended family - Ryan Paevey's chest, Kathleen Gati, etc. Britt was a means to a strategic end, namely finding a reasonably popular love option for Jason. Unfortunately they cocked it up, and I don't see FV going hard in the paint for her for years as he has Eden McCoy.

It's not like less Jason is going to make Britt soar with the rest of the canvas!

A legend. He's known best for the wonderful Harold and Maude, but Brewster McCloud, one of Robert Altman's strangest and angriest films, really haunts me. The scenes with him and the late Sally Kellerman are spellbinding. He also took a real risk doing Roger Avary's adaptation of the Bret Easton Ellis book The Rules of Attraction. The film is an oddball, both ill-considered on many levels and still daring and mesmerizing in places, but he is great as the younger brother of American Psycho's Patrick Bateman.

Very sad but not surprising given his condition. Just an awful thing.

They can't. It would remove Valentin's connection to the core canvas, which is her whole reason for existence on Frank's GH. Rebel Danny with wallflower Georgie is exactly what they should be doing. And meek Rocco with a wild new girl. Mix and match then they end up with those endgame pairings. Simple as.

I dunno, Frank's OLTL and earlier GH with Ron both got pretty hot and heavy at times. Including when he first took over at OLTL and Troy and Lindsay got down and dirty from behind on Malone II's first week. A sequence that will live in infamy! OLTL did not lack for sex and illicit behavior in his era. He even encouraged Thom Christopher and David Fumero to improv their highly homoerotic prison scenes. I think FV is a chameleon who responds to the times, but whose own personal tastes have ossified in some ways. I think he takes a lot of himself out of the equation on certain elements (and not others, ergo his playing favorites) and he is determined to make the show survive above all. And I think he has decided that the GH that has survived into the Trump, etc. era is now an often chaste, heterocentric and 'safe' one catering to his perception of senior Facebook viewers. (That's how you get the EP who once championed a frontburner interracial love triangle with Renee Elise Goldsberry running and hiding from Spencer and Trina 20 years later.) Hence the years we've spent with these WASP couples pumping out babies ever since roughly 2016, the year before which he avoided the axe by letting Carlivati walk the plank. For better or worse, GH's libido went with RC. But that was also when the country began to really change (or show its old/new face).

So long as the party hats are involved.

He is very handsome and has a wonderful voice, I will give him that.

You are so hard on ol' Cameron lol. I think he has sold the hell out of this role for almost two years. He's clearly loving playing the heel.

Whose wouldn't? And yes, Drew should def fake it for awhile.

I was very happy for Ricky on Sunday. What a nice showcase.

If there's any justice in this life Willow will fúck Chase before Drew's eyes, as the Captain Pike from Star Trek respiratory machines beep helplessly. Literally any other regime would do this.

I actually don't have a problem with an occasional 'forbidden' quasi-incestuous romance on a soap, when it's the right people. But this is just poor Danny and this test tube mutant horror. Pass!

Nathan at least comes off like a grown man. Unfortunately he has even less personality than Chase. I will take Dante all day.

Chase has always been an idiot with no personality. I shed no tears for his future comeuppance and I hope it is sleazy.

I see we're all revisiting our forum-wide lust for Buck from the Loving Murders in 2020. I can't complain.

I think it was a coked-up venture capitalist pipe dream like so many others. I suspected that from the beginning. I think they gambled they would make a big splash and then it would all somehow pay for itself. I just feel for the cast, crew and creatives who did legitimately great work and really updated both shows. It was the future of the genre IMO, it was just in the wrong financial hands. I especially feel for people like Debbi Morgan who did some of the best work of her career, was finally the center of the show and who apparently doesn't even like to talk about AMC 2.0 today. Fortunately many of the BTS personnel have found their way to DAYS, GH, etc. in recent years. I know one of them just popped up again in the BTG writing staff the other day. I hope someday someone (like the enterprising @EricMontreal22 , hi Eric!) can get some of the writers on record about the shows. I know Thom Racina and Susan Horgan have been polite about their time at OLTL but pretty vague, but allegedly (per Bob Woods and others) there were more stories in the offing, and the Triskelion Cartel conspiracy arc forming at that show screamed Racina's work. And AMC 2.0 had a lot of changes and plans floating around, so maybe someone can talk to McPherson or whoever else someday. IIRC the HWs all got rotated out once or twice while the PP guys were trying to save money (and presumably snorting lines).

Did she? I just watched an ep with her in '82 or '83. Poor woman. I liked long-suffering Lieux Dressler in the role.

I think she just didn't watch it and sadly she was indeed wise not to get involved. I don't blame her at all. But I still maintain that despite the BTS debacle it was the best AMC had been in years, and one of the best soaps of the 2010s if not the best. Still, it was a good thing my ass wasn't in that audience. "ACKSHUALLY, Susan, Marissa got shot." I know Erika Slezak had to stare down the purser or whoever in person to get any of her payment at the end. She told that story on Linda Dano's podcast. They still owe a lot of them money.

Or an RV.

There is definitely a lot of Frank Capra in her show. These people all knew and loved each other well, year after year. The Labine years have some of that too but on a slightly smaller and more intimate scale. WEHT poor Alice Grant? Did she die? I was a bit flummoxed seeing her still tending house a year or two after killing Diana Taylor.

That's lesbians for you.

Again: KT is doomed.

A lot of Guza II, especially later Guza II, was nihilistic, edgelord and miserable. But they still had a very strong daily team in place, and you could still find great scenes and explorations amidst the dross. It's why we refer back to it so often around here, because that dialogue team was often stellar and the actors were there with them. There were stories that had potential. And yes, there was so much more texture and layers to many of the characters, and a long sense of institutional memory. For better or worse. That and a more adult sensibility is what I miss most about the Guza years, even as I hated a lot of them. And I miss that skill level a lot these days. I think some of the sins of that regime are attributable to Frons, as some people in that era (MVJ, etc.) so often like to point to him. But not enough of them. I think it was a perfect storm of misery. I think part of the reason they kept fixating on Holly's first 6 months on GH is because of Tony, frankly. I think he was clearly enamored with revisiting that last Laura-less period when Luke and "English" were traipsing about, and it got inflated into more than it was. This idea that she is an inveterate con woman ended up defining the latter half of Holly's existence. It's notable that Laura had also just come out of her catatonia for good at this point, in fall '08. Genie had returned (at her slimmest and very confident) and had clearly had a hand in crafting her return after being unhappy in '06; the Laura that came out of her illness was strong, forthright and took no shít from Luke or Tracy. It was a very solid return and ended up with Laura in a good place, leaving Luke behind. I don't think Tony phoned any of that in onscreen, but maybe he'd felt some type of way in its wake.