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I was referring to the contract players. Stella I have no problem with keeping around. (In fact, I might have her shoot Curtis in a whodunit lol)

The warehouse set is legitimately impressive. I just wish it had been in play months ago, as the brick wall jokes wrote themselves for quite awhile now. I'll get to the rest of the show later but some of this stuff was really giving Wildwind days from AMC. IYKYK. Gorgeous.

How is an all female reunion 'feminazi?'

The only ones I'd keep are Portia and Trina. The rest are nobodies to me. (Curtis might make a good short term heavy but that's it at this point IMO) I'd repopulate with others, including some Wards.

Same era too, IIRC. Not a coincidence.

I think that's FV's calculation, which explains the state of the show vs. his earlier work at OLTL (which was practically BTG at times compared to some of this, and which also hosted the frontburner triangle with Renee Elise Goldsberry, Michael Easton and Melissa Archer and had REG frontburner in interracial romances for much of the 2000s). I don't think it's an accurate take on the audience, but as I said before re: the lack of sex (again, the opposite of his older work or GH pre-#MeToo) I think it's a strategy he's opted for to keep the show surviving and not alienating the portion of viewership he considers essential. He's also explicitly said they only pay attention to certain elements of social media. To me that is code for Facebook whites or seniors vs. engaging with Twitter and other outlets, which skew younger and more diverse.

I think the bigger issue is that by the 2010s, the pacing of most primetime dramas (or soaps if they dared to still be called them) had wildly changed. You saw it first at both CW revivals of 90210 and Melrose Place. However fast the original MP moved through plot and character beats (and it could move real fast), the storylines on the new shows seemed powered by amphetamines. You'd get half a beat or two and then it would whiz on. Empire had the same problem which we all noted when that show hit - they would burn through guest characters and plot twists in an episode or two, tops. It caught up to these shows fast. But that was the mentality re: primetime soaps in that era in the late aughts/early '10s. I couldn't say if it's changed since the streaming era, since I don't really watch any network dramas today. Streaming and premium cable shows are a different beast, and most don't seem as desperate to speed through plot and character as something in a 45-minute slot with commercials - even when their stories or characters are very bad on some of those shows, they have the time to spend or waste on them. By contrast I have no idea if Grey's or the Taylor Sheridan shows, or whatever else passes for network or network-adjacent drama today do take the time. I just remember how breathless "primetime drama" had become, just before Netflix and HBO consumed everything. I have been vocal about finding a lot of Dallas repetitious and plodding because the plots would generally default to J.R. vs. all these other fools in his life. But the actors all worked hard. I do think it would merit a strong revival, but I would make it short and smaller scale. The problem is whether or not it's a 1:1 match, Taylor Sheridan has kind of cornered that entire space with Yellowstone and its umpteenth spinoffs and clones (The Ranch, Landman, etc.) that all deal with family, the heartland, oil or ranching. And without Larry Hagman you have lost a major draw. Everyone would be wondering if it's another Sheridan show (and no, I haven't watched them).

I'd just bring on Thomas Hardy Jr. tbh. Isaiah is so bland to me, just like Jordan. I did like him taking a shot at Curtis re: Trina. I will say that I think Donnell Turner has something whenever Curtis is the vindictive heavy. Ever since late '24 when he came into money and power at Aurora and began scheming with Michael against Drew, he's seemed more than his usual phoned-in self when he's doing white collar skullduggery or out for petty vengeance. I would've dumped Curtis long ago and still would, but I think playing him as the schemer here and going harder on his sexual jealousy and resentment could make for some engaging exit chaos.

I think Tika Sumpter at OLTL may have once claimed that either Ron Carlivati or Frank told her they weren't comfortable writing for Black people. That was an old anecdote going around anyway. Could be BS. The fact remains that GH has never been great with Black representation but has a very loyal Black audience and yes, part of that loyalty is due to Sonny, etc. BITD. So they can and should do more. They have fertile options from their past families and popular characters. But their avoidance around Sprina was profound and the very closed-off foursome with Curtis, his rotating wives and their occasional lovers speaks for itself in terms of managing 'the Black story' in a closed loop. FV and RC's OLTL was similar near the end with just Destiny's family and their dayplayer love interests, or keeping many of the characters of color within the same sphere. But it was still more open to white characters and diverse than modern GH.

Robin and Pedro on top of each other were extremely visible and important. I remember just where I was for both as a very young tween. And yes, what we're living through now is very hard to imagine vs. the open and increasingly progressive discourse then, let alone 15+ years ago.

Jacob's Rashad voice consistently kills me.

That is news to me. I thought she repeatedly shut them down after they teased it heavily in Season 2.

Portia putting Jordan on the baby shower list(!!) is even more insane than Curtis acting like he is Turner's supervisor. You don't work here, sir!

They did mention the Impaler a few days ago.

It's Barnabus I think but close enough. It's a great show.

They'e more than close friends. They were married for years until recently.

You wouldn't, but dredging up Tracy's connection and having her woven into a new and unusual mess for her without it being an excuse for another goofy Anthony plotline would potentially interest me.

I vaguely remember that, yes. That was Ron and Frank. I came back in with them in February 2012, though it was a rough ride all year. Johnny actually lasted til early-mid 2013 under Ron IIRC. Then they brought him back off and on after that until maybe 2015-16 for teases with Lulu. But that was it.

I remember tripping out at Max because I remembered Jesse Soffer from the Brady Bunch movies (I think he went by Jesse Lee). Then he was gone overnight.

What exactly was the whole deal with the Soleito/The City revisit in 2011 with Garin Wolf? I saw bits and pieces of it but was hardly watching in that grim period. I know someone (Anthony?) dragged up Tracy's dealings with the Soleitos, but I'm not sure what exactly those old dealings were. I know she was Gino's widow but I don't know how she got out of the mob. Didn't Anthony blackmail her into marriage? That was when I knew they were really doing Tracy dirty (which was saying something after her increasingly demeaning merry-go-round with Luke). I also know Wolf supposedly wanted to bring back some of the Soleitos like Carla, or bring on new ones and it didn't happen. It's too bad it got botched because it could've been viable story.

To be clear I'd turn Joss into a scheming comic heiress down the road, but only after the character had a substantial break lol. I would probably recast. But I might also give Eden a chance to play it if it was a question of running out her contract, because I think she might do well with it.

I thought it was common knowledge already that they made up KLG to look like Granny Moses because of the Charlie issue. It was so unnecessary.

They remember only when it is convenient, or when they're tired of an actor. They forgot Austin's murder for over a year until they needed to finally dispense with Cyrus. They forgot Nikolas had gotten away with shooting Hayden and let Shawn Butler take the fall for it for years, until George Floyd, etc. rolled around and they needed to respond to criticism, and suddenly everyone onscreen wanted to exonerate and free Shawn from prison. They also forgot Natalia was a bigot who'd said horrible things (and in fact tried to blame Ava and then have Kristina bond with Natalia instead) until it was time to dump Eva LaRue and give up. Then suddenly Natalia was openly called out as an intolerant, bigoted mother to both her children, and a clingy drunk. I expect that sooner or later they will suddenly remember that Sonny murdered Wagger, and use it in story again. But a lot of these fumbles and later recoveries are not planned. That much is clear with all the creative teams FV has put in place since 2015. If/when they tire of KT/Britt, one of the first signs you'll see* is if Lulu is allowed to accurately call Britt out in full on what she's done, or when Rocco actually articulates her crimes himself and rejects her. It'll be the same phenomenon all over again. (- Not counting the signs I suspect may already be brewing, namely Britt exposing Joss to the villains and getting her beaten and imprisoned by Cassius. I just don't see the romance with Jason surviving that, and without Jason Britt is surplus to requirements for FV IMO.)

I don't think she's interested tbh. I just suspect she has been doing this since she was very young and may want to move on.

Yes. I've been thinking that since her airtime went way down in late '25 before the new year. I've talked about it a lot haha. I also think she may want to move on.