14 hours ago, StepBack said:

Also, the lighting, I miss it, and also the seriousness of the show (business, family, death)

 

How can Griffith put this together and not understand what made the show so wonderful?

That can be levelled at every Head Writer and Executive Producer since Kay Alden and David Shaughnessy respectively.

 

One thing that stuck with me watching the episode was as the flashbacks became more recent, you could see the writing and production values decrease. 
 

From the lighting to the camera angles, direction and music.

8 hours ago, LondonScribe said:

That can be levelled at every Head Writer and Executive Producer since Kay Alden and David Shaughnessy respectively.

 

One thing that stuck with me watching the episode was as the flashbacks became more recent, you could see the writing and production values decrease. 
 

From the lighting to the camera angles, direction and music.

I really enjoyed the episode, but as you said the interesting look of the show completely deteriorated as the flashbacks got more recent.

 

I didn’t watch Y&R as a child so I loved seeing the older flashbacks. Would’ve enjoyed more older Ashley scenes and at least an older Tracy scene.

 

The show also finally acknowledged that Dina actually made visits. When she first returned they made it seem like she hadn’t been back in their lives since she left as a kid.

 

Ive always been a bigger fan of the Abbotts over the Newmans and prefer Nikki with Jack than Victor.

Edited November 26, 20196 yr by Antoyne

Is the show still using classic cues?

10 minutes ago, YRBB said:

Is the show still using classic cues?

Best way to put it is yes, having restored some of them, but even then on an inconsistent basis. The newer cues are still most prominent. 
 

What I have noticed is that the classic scores are no longer being overdubbed with bland recent music when a vintage flashback is used. 
 

Under Jill Farren Phelps and even Mal Young for a while (at least up to the point I stepped away from watching) that was being done.

The old cues are timeless and lended the show a grandeur once matched by the production values. The new stuff was immediately dated and actually felt more passé. Like JFP giving the show a rock/techno vibe in ways that felt very ‘80s or ‘90s.

The scenes with Jill, Colin, Chance and Cane were a bit goofy today.

 

Truth be told I think that all of this stuff with the will was unnecessary especially given the way this storyline is headed. It looks like Colin is behind everything and that he's lying on Cane. I don't really think this storyline was necessary but I guess some of the reasons they may have done it were to get facilitate, Chance's return, Amanda's introduction and Cane's exit.

 

I am glad that Chance turned out to still be a good guy and it was nice seeing him interact with Jill today. 

 

Also there doesn't seem to be a whole lot going on with Kyle/Summer/Lola/Theo. Lola and Theo are friendly with each other, Kyle and Summer are friendly and Theo/Summer still have an interest in each other. But there doesn't seem to be much movement going on with this group. Although, Lola has been shown considerably less lately, which I am happy about, lol. 

Edited November 27, 20196 yr by xtr

18 hours ago, LondonScribe said:

That can be levelled at every Head Writer and Executive Producer since Kay Alden and David Shaughnessy respectively.

 

One thing that stuck with me watching the episode was as the flashbacks became more recent, you could see the writing and production values decrease. 
 

From the lighting to the camera angles, direction and music.

 

 

Good points. This show just made me miss Y&R so much. Even the classic scenes shown can still do well today IMO.

Whiny Connor needs an immediate ship out to boarding school.

He'll return as a 16-year-old with a chip on his shoulder

This whole Colin,Cane,chance, amanda story seemed convoluted and unnecessary.

 

Why not have Cane and Lily re-unite and leave town.

 

Chance return.

 

Amanda show up and startle GC residents.

 

Plenty of story and opportunity for interesting scenes without all this meaningless 'mystery'...

 

 

Edited November 28, 20196 yr by Faulkner

The Colin debacle is awful.

 

Chelsea is not working at all.

I like the idea of (cash-strapped) Devon moving into the Chancellor mansion.  I haven't always been a Devon fan, but the decisions TPTB have made for his character have put me squarely in his corner.  Now, I want Bryton to last until the very end with the show, just to stick it to those bastards who INSIST on marginalizing him in the most blatantly obvious ways.

29 minutes ago, Khan said:

I like the idea of (cash-strapped) Devon moving into the Chancellor mansion.  I haven't always been a Devon fan, but the decisions TPTB have made for his character have put me squarely in his corner.  Now, I want Bryton to last until the very end with the show, just to stick it to those bastards who INSIST on marginalizing him in the most blatantly obvious ways.

 

A few years ago I had proposed the idea of Devon and Hilary moving into the mansion when Billy turned it blue. 

 

On 11/27/2019 at 5:15 PM, Paul Raven said:

This whole Colin,Cane,chance, amanda story seemed convoluted and unnecessary.

 

Why not have Cane and Lily re-unite and leave town.

 

Chance return.

 

 

I think TPTB where actually trolling Goddard with this mess, as he didn't realize he had filmed his final scenes after afterward lol. After all, Goddard had teased he had an exciting new story right before he was fired. Giving Cane such an anticlimactic exit seems like TPTB were rightfully giving DG the middle finger. 

 

Not quite sure about Amanda though except they really should have had her be Hilary alive; otherwise it's another Karen Spencer story from B&B. 

Edited November 29, 20196 yr by soapfan770

53 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 

A few years ago I had proposed the idea of Devon and Hilary moving into the mansion when Billy turned it blue. 

 

 

I think TPTB where actually trolling Goddard with this mess, as he didn't realize he had filmed his final scenes after afterward lol. After all, Goddard had teased he had an exciting new story right before he was fired. Giving Cane such an anticlimactic exit seems like TPTB were rightfully giving DG the middle finger. 

 

Not quite sure about Amanda though except they really should have had her be Hilary alive; otherwise it's another Karen Spencer story from B&B. 

 

See, that's what I thought!  That's why it seemed odd to hear rumors that he somehow refused to film his final scenes.