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Well. I could buy that Carlton was always attracted to Nicole-why not? She's abeautiful, intelligent woman. But Ted and Nicole were so loved up when we first saw them, that I can't imagine he would have any thoughts that there would be a rupture in that long term successful marriage. But as @GLATWT88 pointed out they're not playing it that way. In two minds as to whether Eva should be not be Ted's child. Surely with a crazy like Leslie turning up and dropping that bombshell, Ted should have done a DNA test.

Lin Bolen wanted to make the shows more hip. Jeopardy was regarded as old fashioned-I guess b/c it required some intelligence/general knowledge and not just trivia questions and luck. And the hosts were dressed more casually eg open necked shorts and more modern attire in general.

Ok @janea4old Thanks for that . On my computer the original image is there...???

Re The Dupree living room. The door on the left is the elevator. Any ideas what the mystery door on the right is? A closet? Rowena's hiding place?

Interesting that NBC would have an ABC performer on the show. Better to have someone from Days for cross promotion, rather than highlighting the competition. But then Anson Williams was from ABC and Gary Burghoff was on a CBS show, MMM was something Lin Bolen was responsible for scheduling. It was an expensive production that didn't pay off in ratings. Did they go to a celebrity version to try and get a bump in the numbers?

Laverne & Shirley might be a contender, Debuting Jan 76 following Happy Days it hit #1, outrating it's lead-in. After 2 seasons as TV's top show ABC moved it to Thurs @8, taking Mork &Mindy's place. So a timeslot that was already a hit for ABC. But while L&S won it's timeslot it didn't do as well as it had Tues nor as well as M&M had done. Mork was failing on Sun so ABC returned it to Thurs, but L&S didn't return to Tuesday. ABC tried it Mon @8 where it bombed . ABC returned it to Tues late in the season and it stayed there for the rest of it's run and finishing #20 for two seasons and then #25. Viewers wanted their Happy Days/Laverne & Shirley fix on Tuesdays. Too Close for Comfort. ABC Tuesdays following Three's Company 80-81 #15 81-82 #6 Moved to 9pm Thurs for 82-83, falls out of Top 30 and is cancelled.

CBD surprise hit "The Waltons' #2 in Season 2, had the other networks scheduling family friendly period based 'heartwarming' dramas. Little House on the Prairie NBC, The New Land ABC. And CBS tried a modern day version with Apple's Way. The Six Million Dollar Man-light scifi/action adventure led to The Bionic Woman spinoff. NBC tried with Invisible Man/Gemini Man. That lead to a superhero revival with Wonderwoman ABC and CBS Incredible Hulk, Spider Man.

Thought I'd resurrect this thread as there are plenty more characters/homes to discuss. Y&R Victoria lived at the Newman ranch, then the Tack House when she married Cole. Did she live there with Ryan? Where did she and JT live? She lived with Billy in the '50's' house and stayed there for years. I know it burned down at some point. Has VIctoria lived anywhere else? ATM she is one on many unhoused GC residents. Lily lived at Neil and Dru's apartment. Did she and Daniel have a place? She & Cane lived in their mid century home. Then she and Billy had an apartment. Later she moved to Devon's former penthouse. Is that where she supposed to be living presently? I think Ashley has lived mostly at the Abbott home. She lived at the ranch when married to Victor and at Brad's house that he inherited from Cassandra. BTG Ted has lived at his home and now the hotel. Andre at his studio/apartment and now with Danni. Kat moved from the guesthouse at Dani's to the Dupree home. Leslie from the apartment she shared with Eva to a hotel room? Characters w/o a home Tomas, Shanice, Vanessa and other supporting/recurring players eg Grayson, Kial, Carlton etc

Thanks @vetsoapfan Am enjoying them also. So both Mike and Ed are offscreen now for several years? Interesting to see how Bert and Bill are kept in the story.

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Point taken. I do remember now Joey and Vanessa discussing property when they first met. She supposedly has a team working under her, but she seems to have plenty of time to hang around the casino and various eateries.

Bottom line - why give a character an occupation if you are not going to explore it in some way? Martin could have been in another occupation in the sense that him as a politician hasn't really affected the story. The 'secret' was something anyone with some prominence could have not wanted exposed. Like Derek the fireman-why? As it turns out they dropped that anyway and he's now at the phantom free clinic. Vanessa the realtor now is more interested in Joey's businesses. Maybe she should have just been a bored, frustrated housewife. That would have given her more motivation to get involved with Joey than being super successful already in a legit business.

Yes, Lou Grant was fading. If ABC or NBC had a strong Monday movie then House Calls/Lou Grant would suffer. The same thing happened with Cagney& Lacey and Emerald Point-the 10 pm numbers did not hold up.

By now Sharon should carry a kidnap survival kit with her at all times!

Nuff said...

Gee Vanessa if everybody you know - family, treasured friends, people you respect are telling you not to get involved with Joey...maybe you should listen? Grayson is bleeding out and Ashley wants him to start at the beginning. Girl, time to do some nursing. The story can wait. Martin is mentioning donors and fellow party members- we need to see a few to add depth to the story. Maybe that handsome older gent that runs the Country Club would be appropriate. The one we see saw with Leslie months ago.

Watching a soap I don't expect a documentary type approach to depicting a profession. But I like to see some semblance of a realistic depiction. But BTG misses on that score. We never see Nicole or Ted with a patient, Shanice and Ashley just gossip at the nurses station, Smitty as a reporter is either donning a cap to meet Jacob at the brick wall or typing away at his computer (about what?) Martin is shown in a better light-at least there are references to clients and cases. But Martin as a politician is a fail- no office or staff and never really dealing with the issues of his constituency. Just talking about running for President!

Soaps have always killed off characters, sometimes unwisely and sometimes for great effect. But starting in the 80's deaths become more commonplace as soaps tried to amp up the drama. More young actors were cast and subsequently left so writers had to cater to that. That's when Back from the Dead , another soap trope became commonplace as the chance to bring back popular actors became common place. Smart writers, like Bill Bell rarely killed off major characters so when he did there was drama. Otherwise, characters were recast or just left town, leaving the possibility of a return of an actor open w/o having to jump through hoops to explain their return.

May 1990 Jackie Babbin takes over as EP. That's Felicia Minei Behr with her.They must have had high hopes that she would be the one to give Loving a boost after her success at AMC. But not so. How long did she last? What were some of her changes in story and cast? I'm pretty sure she instigated the 'Who Killed Rick Alden?' story as she liked a good murder mystery.

According to his papers housed at American Heritage Center, University of Wyoming David Davidson wrote TBD under the name Albert Sanders from March 20- Sept 14 1961. He wrote many primetime scripts under his own name.

Rita Lakin wrote a proposal for 'Diary of A Mad Housewife' based on the 1970 movie. It's story of a put open, frustrated woman so I imagine Lakin would have softened that angle (and maybe consider a change of title) if it was going to sell as a daytime soap. She was also the writer on 3 other proposed primetime soaps based on movies-Written on the Wind 1965 and An Affair to Remember 1975 and Diamond Head based on a movie 1972

Rita Lakin, who headwrote The Doctors in 67/68 and Peyton Place, Flamingo Road. Emerald Point. Executive Suite. Dynasty as well as other primetime shows and TV movies also created the Gladdy Gold Mystery seven-book series, including Getting Old Is Murder, Getting Old Is The Best Revenge, and Getting Old Can Kill You. I wonder if they would have made a good TV series?

David Birney Bridget Loves Bernie CBS 1972-73 Serpico NBC 1976-77 St Elsewhere 1982 NBC (first season) Glitter ABC 1984-85 Live Shot UPN 1995 Meredith Baxter Bridget Loves Bernie CBS 1972-73 Family 1976-80 ABC Family Ties 1982-89 NBC The Faculty ABC 1996

Holly came on in 1970. The Dobsons arrived in 75.

Like I mentioned before, the Parker family could have been expanded with more siblings and a parent(s). By 85 only Ed and Ross survived from the Dobson era. Don't really count Phillip as he was a child in their time. From Marland era I think only Vanessa, Henry and Maureen survived. Am I right in saying that at one stage there was only Maureen on screen until Bea returned and Chelsea was introduced? Had Ed not been married to Maureen, I think the Reardons may have been forgotten. Not good for the show that so few characters remained from 2 successful regimes.