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  1. "Murphy Brown" revival 2018

    DD, I think you mean Avery, not Bailey. I think Faith Ford is being wasted. Updating her character is probably the biggest challenge, given that Corky was brought on as the ingenue with the shallower outlook and stories; the Deborah Norville to Murphy's Jane Pauley. That's harder to write for and play when you're in your early fifties (??) and you're now Jane Pauley.
  2. Greatest Soap of All Time?

    Soaps started to gain a different type of reputation in the nineties. First, was the perception these were "grandma's stories." They were stodgy and I could "not watch for six months/two years, and still be able to know what's going on." The second was they were outlandish. Evil Twins. Back-from-the-dead. And eventually...possession. Unfortunately, new people coming on board tried to play down the first while amping up the second. The value in the first was having the opportunity to play every beat of a story. Producers or writers or whomever really held the reins decided to fast-forward stories, and in the 2000s, even having key scenes playing out off camera. The value in the second was to ret-con poor decision-making or giving an opportunity to an actor to return or "show off" their skills. Once we no longer believed you were really dead or saw that your evil twin was only the "good twin who dressed differently," it became more gimmicky, so we had to delve into voodoo, psychics, bad dolls, and...possession. The general public wasn't having any of it after a while, if they even dipped in to begin with. Only the hardcore stayed. In the meantime, that hardcore audience (my grandmother's generation) began dying off, my mother's generation began working and rolling their eyes at the ridiculousness of the "new soaps." Gen X and the millennials may have dipped in on occasion, but didn't stay for long. There were enticing new shows on cable or Netflix to watch. I think the biggest thing soaps failed to do was court a new audience in the nineties. These shows were typically passed on from generation to generation. OR maybe someone caught an episode when they were home sick from school and got hooked. But once we stopped "passing on" and had Judge Judy and old L&O reruns to watch when home in the daytime, the soaps had no new audience. We also saw elements of soaps creeping into primetime, explicitly with Dallas and Dynasty, and then later implicitly with Roseanne, ER and Friends. We could get enough of a "fix" there without having to cavort with outlandish storylines and slow-moving stories.
  3. Will & Grace Revival

    I couldn't agree more. This episode was miles away better than last week. Although it is fun to have different combinations of the Fab Four in storylines, the season should've kicked off with everyone on the same page...hunting for Karen. Love Karen's insta-bond with Linda. And I always appreciate appearances by Smitty and Anastasia! Nice nod with the belly touch on the shower door.
  4. Will & Grace Revival

    Nobody had any thoughts on the season premiere?
  5. I forgot Darnell had come to Loving as Jacob! What a horrible ending for that character. Yeah, not exactly quick and painless. I do remember catching commercials regarding Gilbert. She did play that hand a bit too often (Kitty/Kelly, Adam/Stuart, Jeremy/Gilbert, Natalie/Janet, Tad/Ted, Anna/Alex, Erica/Jane...)
  6. AMC Tribute Thread

    The introduction of Wildwind in the early 90s really opened up the canvas in the same way I imagine Cortlandt manor did in the late 70s/early 80s. It's so funny...apparently these big estates existed in Pine Valley but no one ever discussed the Cortlandts or Merricks prior to.
  7. I was trying to find an example online, but had no luck. I remember they showed it one day early in my viewing history, and I looked over at my cousin, and she said, "Yeah, sometimes he has visions." I think we both rolled our eyes and went on watching. On another note, while searching for the example, apparently Jeremy died on loving by being encased in cement??
  8. I liked the actress as well, and was glad when they decided to keep her around. It was the voodoo nonsense...like I said, I appreciated AMC for its realism compared to other soaps.
  9. For me, AMC hit its nadir right around that time with Rayfield and Cascio. Dog Boy, random teens, Anna/Alex, fading out of core families...cybersex with Weird JR and Boring Lori...it's saying something that I got down on my knees when McTavish came back. And I hated Corrinne (?) and the voodoo story. Luckily, they dropped it like a hot rock and got back to the mainland.
  10. I feel like the show never recovered from McTavish's second stint as writer. I suppose, in an effort to grab ratings like Days and Passions, the show became more fanciful and stunt-driven. Esensten/Brown drove it into the muck and mire (Sextet of Suck) until Chuck Pratt drove it off the edge, as he just didn't seem to care about history or tone. Online definitely felt like the earlier days.
  11. Not disagreeing with you at all here, but could you go into more detail about what you are saying?
  12. "Murphy Brown" revival 2018

    I enjoyed the first episode and will continue to watch. I loved Hillary's extended cameo, and I think her relationship with Avery was one of the most surprising and my favorite parts of the new series. And, although brief, I agree that it seems as if Tyne Daly had been there all along.
  13. When did you start watching AMC, and was there a reason why you did (boredom, family member watched, illness)? Growing up, my paternal grandmother watched the CBS soaps and my maternal grandmother watched the ABC soaps. For a brief time after high school, I lived with my maternal grandmother, who fixed "dinner" during what we call lunch (which differs from "supper," for all of you that didn't know. ) I usually ate dinner while AMC was on in the next room, and I became intrigued by the humorous character of Opal Purdy Gardner as she was trying to "land" Palmer Cortlandt. At first, I only watched these scenes, but then I became interested in other scenes as well. This would have been in the fall of 1990. Do you remember when you became aware of who was writing it, and may be a writer change over? Being interested in show business, I always paid attention to credits. I'm the guy in the theater who didn't leave until the end, even before Marvel superhero "stings" after the credits rolled. I really started to become interested in the changeovers when the show went from Megan McTavish to Lorraine Broderick in the mid-90s. (Long answer) Do you think about the show differently than you do other soap operas? If so, or not, why? I always think differently of AMC, because it is the only soap I actually watched fully. I stayed tangentially connected to other soaps due to family members and for a brief time, subscribed to Episodes and SOD. Since AMC has been gone, it's just not the same. I come here to these boards mostly for the nostalgia and I enjoy the general entertainment and political threads. I never added another soap to my lineup, because daily viewing, even on VCR, was sometimes difficult to keep up with while working full time. I really think AMC and OLTL 2.0 really had it right in their rebirths as a show that only aired 2-3 times a week as a "half hour" (although initially that p***ed me off). One thing I always appreciated about AMC was its "realism," which unfortunately flew out the window more and more often, esp. as Chuck Pratt took over. By then, I guess I was so invested, I saw it through with eyes permanently rolled. I can laugh through Opal's tarot readings and Myrtle dating Santa Claus, but never could stomach Jeremy's psychic powers and Erica's unabortion (although I appreciated both actors, and thought the character had a horrible undeserving exit). And although Opal remained a favorite, the real drawing power for me through most of the run was David Canary's portrayals of Adam and Stuart Chandler. Even the most asinine story (who killed Stuart?) could be riveting due to his performance.
  14. The soap opera writers' discussion

    Eric, it is so good to "see" you again. You always bring a sincere thoughtfulness to the boards.
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