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Joyce does Hollywood connections (her husband is a name and an Oscar nominee) and she spoke out about how many things they filmed her doing wound up on the cutting room floor in favor of her "feud" with Brandi. Joyce honestly wasn't catty enough for this show and too genuine.

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I know Joyce did have the Hollywood connections, but she just came off so low rent due to the way they associated her with Brandi and Carlton. I feel like last season was a failure because of producers NOT because of Joyce or Carlton themselves. They are the ones who pick which stories to pursue and they failed Carlton and Joyce in that regard.

See I see that, but a good smart person can do well on reality tv, even Housewives. Kandi and Cynthia from RHOA have mainly just benefited and Carole and Heather did well on NYC. It's just that when people DO have a fall from grace it's usually huge.

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I've gotta say - that Atlanta opener with the new tailgates is a letdown... doesn't seem to flow and the tailgates aren't that catchy like they've been previously.

I'm so excited for the premiere though - good month for Bravo!

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I see what you mean, Chris B. I guess RHOBH seems different to me. Other than Lisa, who seems to have a lot of navigating and PR skills, this show seems to do nothing but drag the participants down.

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I am surprised Atlanta doesn't get a new opening...

I kinda miss the families being I. The background in Atlanta... kandi, Phaedra, and Cynthia still feature their kids and.husbands..

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Pit Bull Update: TMZ is on this like butter on bread. Kim's "second mother" will be suing her. She's one of Kingsley's four victims. She was laying down on Kim's bed and reached over when the dog ripped into her hand. He went after her face but she blocked Kingsley with her arm. Kingsley chewed into her arm. She shows pictures of the injuries that look pretty awful. She said she convinced them not to call animal control at the time due to Kim's pleas but Kim has refused to take care of any of her medical bills (re: injuries Kingsley caused).

Like she did with her niece, Kim is, once again, blaming the victim.

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