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I think the constant turnaround of EP's and writers post Paul Rauch also really played a part in why some characters, actors, storylines, etc. flopped.

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4 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think the constant turnaround of EP's and writers post Paul Rauch also really played a part in why some characters, actors, storylines, etc. flopped.

Yup. It's a shame, too, given the wealth of talent they had.

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3 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think the constant turnaround of EP's and writers post Paul Rauch also really played a part in why some characters, actors, storylines, etc. flopped.

In spite of the high turnover. AW did manage to have some solid stable era's.

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1 minute ago, victoria foxton said:

In spite of the high turnover. AW did manage to have some solid stable era's.

Would you say that the JFP era was the final straw, that the show was permanently doomed?

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4 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

In spite of the high turnover. AW did manage to have some solid stable era's.

True.

In terms of the writing, I have to say Donna Swajeski's and Peggy Sloane's tenures were pretty solid.

3 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Would you say that the JFP era was the final straw, that the show was permanently doomed?

I think the problems started before she got there, but bringing her in didn't do AW any favors. From watching the episodes, it seems that in some cases Charlotte Savitz did a lot more damage.

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That sounds about right. She was right before Goutman, if I'm not mistaken.

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2 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

That sounds about right. She was right before Goutman, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah

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15 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Would you say that the JFP era was the final straw, that the show was permanently doomed?

Most definitely. But the bad decisions continued. Long after JFP was long gone.

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16 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Would you say that the JFP era was the final straw, that the show was permanently doomed?

JFP and Savitz both made horrible decisions, likely pushed by NBC (especially in Savitz's case), but the show was never going to last much longer. It was nearly canceled in 1993, I believe. That the show survived for 20 years while mostly being in the back of the pack is amazing.

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16 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

It was nearly canceled in 1993, I believe.

I think it came between AW and SB that was going to get cancelled then, and of course it was SB that got axed.

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posted this on the soap opera bible page. putting it here as well.

http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/creation.htm

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It's a great bible, and such fun to see what this original vision ended up so different on TV.

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Does anyone know where I can find a pdf with the book '8 years in AW' ....I would love to read it this summer

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misspalmer:

i got the kindle edition from amazon, but try this:

https://www.e-bookdownload.net/search/eight-years-in-another-world

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Thank you very much 😍

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