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2 minutes ago, Vee said:

IMO Frank has been micromanaging this show for his own vision since RC was fired. They clicked together in sync, whether the work was good or bad, but I think with Frank solo, having consumed all that hype from soap bloggers and Twitter folk that they were the saviors of ABC soaps and the last guardian of the history, it emboldened him to try to become Jill Farren Phelps - creating the show himself with his favorite folks, adding in bits and pieces of OLTL, etc. at any opportunity.

Frank couldn't stand Dena Higley at OLTL but serviced her vision as an EP in those years because it was necessary. Now he's running the show.

 

This.

 

You can see it with Frank. He's so deliberately tone deaf. I can see the man shaking his head not understanding why people 'dont get his vision'. He really believes in his head he's producing a great soap. 

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I think all they respond to these days are flyover state fans and FB/Twitter. They can occasionally pander to them and say, 'look, we did it.' Everything else feels like Frank's Playhouse.

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It can't be that they rushed the end of the story because of the poor response to Jarly because the show is taped, what?, six weeks in advance?
And they were not trying to sell us Jarly as real six weeks ago (which is another thing that is appalling about the way this is being wrapped up).
I don't know what the story is behind the obvious interference and what Frank V's motives would be but this is completely irrational. 

Besides I don't see how the audience hating Jarly justifies not giving us proper dramatics when Sonny comes home even if they decided to not have them have sex. There was plenty of conflict and complications to be had even without the "Are Jarly in love" aspect. We were speculating about it long before they tried to tell us these two were developing feelings for each other. Just Sonny thinking they might have would be enough

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38 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Right? This will probably end up being like Chase/Michael/Willow where Chase just instantly forgave everyone and everyone got along and there were no consequences. So boring. 

 

Can't wait for Carly and Nina to 'face off'. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. 

4 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

It can't be that they rushed the end of the story because of the poor response to Jarly because the show is taped, what?, six weeks in advance?
And they were not trying to sell us Jarly as real six weeks ago (which is another thing that is appalling about the way this is being wrapped up).
I don't know what the story is behind the obvious interference and what Frank V's motives would be but this is completely irrational. 

Besides I don't see how the audience hating Jarly justifies not giving us proper dramatics when Sonny comes home even if they decided to not have them have sex. There was plenty of conflict and complications to be had even without the "Are Jarly in love" aspect. We were speculating about it long before they tried to tell us these two were developing feelings for each other. Just Sonny thinking they might have would be enough

 

It's all so odd. It's like Frank is trying to cater all the bases and we end up with no drama. That's definitely simplifying things but still. Just how it comes across. 

 

And as you said, the selling of Jarly started late in the game and was rushed, without any real conflict. Yet, this coupling and the drama surrounding them and Sonny returning writes itself. So ....

 

It's all so odd. And such a letdown.

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25 minutes ago, Vee said:

Rushed, lazy and anticlimactic has been this show's MO for years.

I often feel like some of this is Frank's doing as well as the Network's

 

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The spark is duller than it should be between them. 

 

What spark? LW has only ever had chemistry with Ingo and that's it. Her and Steve's Jarly have always been dull, she's always come across like his mother not his BFF

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1 minute ago, Vee said:

It's all Frank IMO, and some of his writers have def fallen down on the ball though I think the current HW team might (or might not) be capable of more solo.

 

Again. THIS. I noticed an improvement when Dan came onboard. I question Van Etten.

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The only way this would work going fwd is if Jason and Carly didn't let it go and ultimately embarked on an affair, a la Roman/John/Marlena on DAYS. Chances that happens are IMO minimal, lol.

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Am I the only one thinking things might've been rushed due to Steve Burton's COVID exposure? And that pushed them to change direction a bit? Don't know. Just my hunch.
The reveal today was... lackluster. It should've been Sonny walking in on Carly & Jason having sex, and then possibly turning to Nina in a moment of hurt.
I honestly did not miss Sonny and do believe he should've stayed killed off, sans the Mike storyline.

As for the current regime... I like those working, and wouldn't want a change.

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9-10

 

Ewwwwww to them showing this kiss again. I just can't.

 

Love the reveal toward Sonny. I knew that sauce would come back into play and I loved how Jax sloooowwwly got to the truth. And CW just gave a masterclass as  Nina defended her actions. And I saw so much old Annie in that. Yes, I know Nina was wrong, but CW played against the material and it was flawless awesome because of it.

 

Can we keep Ms. Wu? Just saying.

 

I continue to enjoy Maxie and Brooklyn as the Scheme Team. Funny and still keeping it real. But Austin  being tied in as a potential romance. Ugh. 

 

It's been a few days, but I love the introduction of Victor Cassandine and wonder how he will tie into everything.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Love the reveal toward Sonny. I knew that sauce would come back into play and I loved how Jax sloooowwwly got to the truth. And CW just gave a masterclass as  Nina defended her actions. And I saw so much old Annie in that. Yes, I know Nina was wrong, but CW played against the material and it was flawless awesome because of it.

Cynthia Watros' complex portrayal of Nina is nothing short of incredible. Even when Nina looks empty there is intensity. Michelle Stafford would've just played possum and rested on the material. Watros has taken the material and PUSHED it!

3 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Can we keep Ms. Wu? Just saying.

Let's hope she sticks around for a while!

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59 minutes ago, xtr said:

I wonder if they negative feedback may have played a role in things. I saw several people on Twitter, complaining about Jarly being together, though, I know that's not the only platform out there. I wonder if they received a bunch of negative feedback in general and just decided to really rush the reveal. There really doesn't seem to be any fallout right now, but maybe there's still time for that to change at least a little. Maybe people will be mad at Nina and that will bring some drama to this story. They could at least get some drama from people being mad that her lying and secret keeping kept Sonny from his family. I would also like to see Sonny struggle with his feelings for her, but I'm not sure we'll get much of that. 

Seems like the change came when Jarly began feeling it so the turn around would have been pretty quick.  I believe they axed Jason/Britt and moved the non drama to Jarly/Sonny.  Sonny was not due back in PC until November according to the rumors I heard but NF was a colossal fail so it had to be wrapped up.  

Two eppies were dedicated to Jarly's resurfaced feelings.  That was a huge clue right there.

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9 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

I believe they axed Jason/Britt

My assumption until now was they suspended it - which was short-sighted considering how much it killed the great momentum - so that they could tell the Sonny vs Jarly story properly and would revisit it later but in my disappointment of today I am starting to wonder if they did not actually just purely and simply dropped it.
And considering how enthusiastic the public response was, if they did, the question is which behind-the-scenes personality had a hand in that. We have Frank V as a suspect but that wouldn't be the first time SB dictated who he did or didn't want to be paired with and/or changed his mind.
I am beyond cynical today but looks like this nest of vipers mess goes way beyond the vaccine debate.

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Yeah... I feel cheated.

I had no problem with Sonny’s amnesia/Nixon Falls and how long it was taking. Considering the way GH has needlessly dragged some things out, this was nothing. 

Clearly there was interference again and I don’t know how anybody, fans or production people, could want this. Frank and the stans are a lot dumber then I thought they were.

I’d like to see what Dan and Chris could do if they ever finally got out from under Frank’s thumb. 
 

 

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