Lol, Johnny thought the idea of Chanel with a girl was hot until he found out it was his sister. Thank god for this quad because the show is booooring otherwise.

What is this Calista garbage? I feel like those scenes today took up 75% of the episode and I think it's supposed to be comical but it's not.

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Johnny/Chanel/Allie/Tripp continue to be the best part of the show. I’m curious to see if they go the route of having Tripp and Johnny not like each other. That would be interesting to see.

And, where did Melinda’s hate boner for E.J come from? Am I forgetting something from the past?

I’m more curious if they go the route of Tripp & Johnny not liking each other only to end of in a very passionate embrace 😁 One could wish lol.

As for Melinda I wonder her resentment/hate boner towards her fellow Salemites stems from her unresolved bitterness of her daughter’s death? I like this actress better than the previous one, it be interesting if her character was better explored in depth instead of being a one note bloodthirsty prosecutor. 

 

4 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Lol, Johnny thought the idea of Chanel with a girl was hot until he found out it was his sister. Thank god for this quad because the show is booooring otherwise.

What is this Calista garbage? I feel like those scenes today took up 75% of the episode and I think it's supposed to be comical but it's not.

 

Johnny/Chanel/Allie were the definite highlights.

 

I found Calista amusing in her first episode but I'm already over it.

 

And Xander is Ron's new David Vickers. It's not necessarily a compliment. And Gwen is completely useless now as a character. It's such a shame. What a waste of both of them.

5 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

And Xander is Ron's new David Vickers. 

I definitely 100% think this is the right parallel and this is where it is going.
With the caveat that by the time Ron was writing David and the character was just a shell of what he used to be, a pathetic cartoon, TW had completely checked out and was going through the motions. Paul T. is still giving it his all so I am not quite at the stage where I loathe the character yet but the trajectory is definitely clear if they don't remember what made Xander interesting wasn't just his abs.

Oh and btw Gwen is a bust. That initial story arc with Chad and Abby was hateful. Her killing Laura in such an undignified and unpunished manner is a disgrace. And without Abby, Jennifer (and soon Jack) around, whatever "comedic" fling she has with Xander is really not interesting enough to keep around. I have yet to find anything likeable about her, chemistry or not.
I will make an allowance if there is a chance Sarah might come back - in which case I'll let them play out the triangle. But otherwise I think she can be fairly declared a bust and the show should cut their losses.

51 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I definitely 100% think this is the right parallel and this is where it is going.
With the caveat that by the time Ron was writing David and the character was just a shell of what he used to be, a pathetic cartoon, TW had completely checked out and was going through the motions. Paul T. is still giving it his all so I am not quite at the stage where I loathe the character yet but the trajectory is definitely clear if they don't remember what made Xander interesting wasn't just his abs.

Oh and btw Gwen is a bust. That initial story arc with Chad and Abby was hateful. Her killing Laura in such an undignified and unpunished manner is a disgrace. And without Abby, Jennifer (and soon Jack) around, whatever "comedic" fling she has with Xander is really not interesting enough to keep around. I have yet to find anything likeable about her, chemistry or not.
I will make an allowance if there is a chance Sarah might come back - in which case I'll let them play out the triangle. But otherwise I think she can be fairly declared a bust and the show should cut their losses.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Said it perfectly, especially on Gwen. Ron almost always seems to do this though, bring on a new character and they catch a spark with the audience but he has them do such awful things and then 'redeems' (i.e. makes them boring) them or they get stuck with a new writer who waters them down. It's just such a waste. 

 

I agree on the Sarah aspect. I'll allow it. But if they aren't bringing her back, what's the point?

 

Paul Telfer is definitely having fun and it shows. It helps a great deal he's so invested.

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8 hours ago, KMan101 said:

I couldn't agree with you more. Said it perfectly, especially on Gwen. Ron almost always seems to do this though, bring on a new character and they catch a spark with the audience but he has them do such awful things and then 'redeems' (i.e. makes them boring) them or they get stuck with a new writer who waters them down. It's just such a waste. 

It’s a shame because Emily O’Brien is great and was initially great in this role. But everything happened in her story and it came to what? We compared Abby accidentally throwing a “pregnant” Gwen down the stairs to Reva/Annie on GL. The latter story led to a long murder trial and had implications throughout Springfield. Abby/Gwen led to what? Abby leaving town? Gwen being blackmailed by a doctor who was swiftly killed off? Gwen killed a pillar of DAYS history (Laura) for what? None of this sh!t matters, which is one huge reason why I can’t get into this show.

15 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

It’s a shame because Emily O’Brien is great and was initially great in this role. But everything happened in her story and it came to what? We compared Abby accidentally throwing a “pregnant” Gwen down the stairs to Reva/Annie on GL. The latter story led to a long murder trial and had implications throughout Springfield. Abby/Gwen led to what? Abby leaving town? Gwen being blackmailed by a doctor who was swiftly killed off? Gwen killed a pillar of DAYS history (Laura) for what? None of this sh!t matters, which is one huge reason why I can’t get into this show.

Bingo. In Ron's world, these are all just plot points, but they don't lead to anywhere or have lasting affects. It really doesn't matter. 

Ron wrote David Vickers as a caricature because it was fun and easy. Tuc Watkins was willing to do the work but was generally given camp. Ron prefers outsize, OTT characters and enjoys writing vixens, villains, etc. most of all - that's why he let Franco, Nina, Obrecht, etc. dominate GH and leaned on Tess, et al on OLTL. Some of his broad characters work, but the problem is he doesn't know when to stop or how not to double or triple down. The situation at DOOL is no different.

14 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

As for Melinda I wonder her resentment/hate boner towards her fellow Salemites stems from her unresolved bitterness of her daughter’s death? I like this actress better than the previous one, it be interesting if her character was better explored in depth instead of being a one note bloodthirsty prosecutor. 

 

I like the original Melinda better. The current one seems younger, and doesn't have any snark in her delivery.

15 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

I’m more curious if they go the route of Tripp & Johnny not liking each other only to end of in a very passionate embrace 😁 One could wish lol.

Well we’ll have to wait and see if they have good chemistry together 😂 

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JKJ is morphing into Willem Dafoe.

2 hours ago, Faulkner said:

JKJ is morphing into Willem Dafoe.

I truly wonder why he came back. His return has been horrible and forgettable.

8 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I truly wonder why he came back. His return has been horrible and forgettable.

He needed a paycheque?

6 hours ago, Faulkner said:

It’s a shame because Emily O’Brien is great and was initially great in this role. But everything happened in her story and it came to what? We compared Abby accidentally throwing a “pregnant” Gwen down the stairs to Reva/Annie on GL. The latter story led to a long murder trial and had implications throughout Springfield. Abby/Gwen led to what? Abby leaving town? Gwen being blackmailed by a doctor who was swiftly killed off? Gwen killed a pillar of DAYS history (Laura) for what? None of this sh!t matters, which is one huge reason why I can’t get into this show.

 

This. None of this sh!t matters. It's disappointing.