1 minute ago, soapfan770 said:

I love the classic “affair/cheating” jazz score was used while Ryan was daydreaming, always used when someone was having an affair!

Hearing all of this old music is just like seeing old characters again. At the bottom of the show, Lauralee previewed next week’s episodes with another vintage cue playing underneath.

12 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

J. Eddie Peck was nearing 40 years old in this episode and looks absolutely flawless.

 

Phyllis used to be such a fun character.

 

Doris Collins! I have very distinct memories of my aunt referring to her as “Sharon’s mama in that wheelchea.” A character like Doris, folding her towels with her little tabletop oscillating fan whirring in the background, wouldn’t have been taken seriously on soaps just five years after this episode aired.

 

 

Yes, he does! And his chemistry with Tom was always as hot as he is.

 

This is such a great example of the fun Phyllis and you can still see that dark, scary undercurrent.

 

Always nice to see Doris. Such a unique presence.

 

8 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Heather Tom was such a gifted and open young actress. You can just see so many emotions passing over her in one little scene. Katie gives her nothing to work with, and she’s hardened into a lot of bad patterns.

 

Heather as Victoria was an absolute treasure. One of THE biggest losses this show has ever endured. She should be the lead of Newman by now, her own version of Victor. Instead....

 

This episode is a reminder of the softer, sweeter Victor and the beautiful relationships he had with his kids.

Again, I would be embarrassed to put on the modern-day show after these. And this isn’t even that remarkable for an older episode.

5 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Again, I would be embarrassed to put on the modern-day show after these. And this isn’t even that remarkable for an older episode.

 

Yes, other than the octopus stuff, this is typical 1996 Y&R. But so much more competent than what's done now.

24 minutes ago, YRBB said:

Heather as Victoria was an absolute treasure. One of THE biggest losses this show has ever endured. She should be the lead of Newman by now, her own version of Victor. Instead....

Totally. And you could see the kind of character that could have been. Powerful yet not sacrificing the vulnerability (edit: this scene at the end where she’s silently examining and intimidating Sharon is a great example) instead of this cowed and uncertain creature Amelia Heinle is playing. But then you realize how difficult this would have been for a new writer to handle, especially with the pressure to make her into a watered-down ABC heroine in the 2000s.

Edited April 24, 20206 yr by Faulkner

24 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I love the classic “affair/cheating” jazz score was used while Ryan was daydreaming, always used when someone was having an affair!

https://www.allmusic.com/album/young-and-the-restless-television-soundtrack-mw0000036570#no-js

The score is called 11.3am. The sampling of it can be listened to on this site. It used to be a full version of it somewhere on YouTube. 

 

I love it too!!!

Nikki, at this point was this where she ran off with marry Josh in Las Vegas? Weird to think she had a wedding so soon after her engagement with Brad went up in smoke.

I really loved the contrast between Nina's easy, friendly, and open personality vs. Victoria's bitchiness. 

 

Sharon Case was still very stilted here, I thought.

3 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:

 

Even more so because Billy and Victoria will always be David and Heather Tom to me.

 

Same

10 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

I really loved the contrast between Nina's easy, friendly, and open personality vs. Victoria's bitchiness. 

 

Sharon Case was still very stilted here, I thought.

 

Love the contrast as well.

 

Sharon Case was definitely green. I also wonder if it's how she chose to play Sharon. Maybe a mix of both.

 

I miss Karen Hensel as Doris and Crazy Phyllis.

 

I always lol when I see Karen Hensel on Mama's Family as Olga.  

 

I remember watching in 1998 and just not really caring much about the Nina/Ryan/Victoria/Cole quad. It still rings true watching this episode. Meh. But I love Tricia Cast and Heather Tom so  they act circles around the men.

Edited April 24, 20206 yr by KMan101

I like 90s/early 00s Michelle Stafford compared to the performance we're getting now. The quasi Sheila that she was back then was fun material. 

 

Might be in the minority, but I enjoy early 90s Christine. I find her pairing with Paul bland though. I don't know who the best male character for her would be, but she was better with Danny. Paul imo had better chemistry with Lauren and Cassaundra. His secretary Lynn would have most likely been the best woman for him, but she's so nice and calm, there wouldn't be much material there storyline wise. 

 

Nick and Sharon were cool in the beginning but they've just been pulled apart so many times they've lost any interest as a supercouple. 

 

 

Edited April 24, 20206 yr by ironlion

Man, Work can’t get done fast enough for me so I can watch! 😁😁😁

6 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Man, Work can’t get done fast enough for me so I can watch! 😁😁😁

 

Honestly, this episode was not as great as the first 3. 

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Nikki, at this point was this where she ran off with marry Josh in Las Vegas? Weird to think she had a wedding so soon after her engagement with Brad went up in smoke.

I think Nikki eloped w/ Josh in the fall of 1996. From what I remember, Nikki thought she and Victor were getting back together but then Victor went to Kansas to see Hope and little Adam (I think this was when Cliff was killed) and so a disappointed Nikki turned to Josh.

 

55 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

I remember watching in 1998 and just not really caring much about the Nina/Ryan/Victoria/Cole quad. It still rings true watching this episode. Meh. But I love Tricia Cast and Heather Tom so  they act circles around the men.

I didn't like that quadrangle storyline. Scott Reeves and J. Eddie Peck were not prize catches to me.

 

I remember Fall 1996 through to the first half of 1997 as being a lull period. I was watching once or twice a week and keeping up online and through soap magazines.

Edited April 24, 20206 yr by kalbir

1 minute ago, kalbir said:

 

 

I didn't like that quadrangle storyline. Scott Reeves and J. Eddie Peck were not prize catches to me.

 

I thought Scott was cute in the early 90s, and he and Victoria were pretty much my first 'ship.  Feels like he aged quite a bit during the 5 years between the Masquerade episode and this one (from age 25 to 30).  I loved Victoria with Cole too.  The original Nina/Ryan/Victoria triangle was great, but this quad didn't work, and it got way worse when Shari Shattuck was added into the mix.

2 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

I thought Scott was cute in the early 90s, and he and Victoria were pretty much my first 'ship.  Feels like he aged quite a bit during the 5 years between the Masquerade episode and this one (from age 25 to 30).

Scott Reeves is almost 54 and hasn't aged well at all. I can't believe he's about to be a grandfather.