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18 minutes ago, YRBB said:

God, how wonderful it is to rewatch such a classic in really crisp HD. And such great storylines: The yearlong takeover arriving at another unforgettable climax ("I will crush you!"). So soapy but it's the great acting by Bergman that sells those last few moments. He looks terrified. Mac and Katherine; a great story that led to even better things. Sexy Jill and Malcolm flirting. And you can say all you want about Christine (and I have), but the scenes about her not being pregnant were rather touching thanks to beautiful execution. They also seem to have only cut one scene. This recaptured the feeling I had 20 years ago watching this. It hurts my soul the show in all its HD glory isn't streaming on AA.  

 

 

Jack is such a punk, I was team Victor all the way back then. He should have built his own business instead of losing his father's and trying to steal Victor's! So great how he went from practically rolling his eyes at the beginning of the episode to nearly $%&!ing his pants by the end. 

 

I love the throwaway line where Jill says "maybe I'll invite my son Billy for the summer..." knowing what's to come. It's so rich.

 

I agree that LLB was really good in those scenes, as was DD... the tension when Christine comes home and wants to be alone and Mary is there, and then she finally gets to tell Paul. Makes me mad thinking again how 20 years later Nikki runs her over and kills her baby and makes her infertile but the Newmans act like Christine is an awful person for thinking she should face consequences for that. And poor Mary, being so Catholic and having all those kids but never really getting a grandchild to raise except for tween Heather that one summer and Heather didn't even know who she really was.

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13 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

It's something else to see classic scenes in context! 

 

Yes, it took Jack and Brad nine months of scheming/planning to take over Newman, a further 4 months for this confrontation, and 3 more for it to be resolved and spun into Jabot vs Newman. Brilliant business storytelling.

And I was young when this went down, but wasn't Victoria fighting them tooth and nail while Victor was believed dead thus the scene with her today? 

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28 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I meant it as a joke. NVM. 

 

I admit that I am wondering about this MTS opening though. I don't think I ever saw that one. Was it that racy for its time?

I just found it! Whew, I was starting to think it never happened lol I think it was less racy and more comical because it's so random. This clip is kinda washed out and there's terrible static over the music, but there she is.

 

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5 hours ago, Darn said:

 

It seems to me for how popular Shemar was he ever got story to match that popularity.


He never did unfortunately. It was lazy on the show’s part to have him and Olivia pair up as oppose to have Malcolm lead his own storylines. I think Michelle Thomas’s death changed the Callie story significantly. I know the show had tried to get the Winters brothers out of the rut and backfire but by the time the triangle with Alex came around is was indeed enough was enough. 

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They're finally doing what they should, which is trim down scenes to save time but not removing completely. Christine's baby fantasy was taken out, Mac entering the Chancellor estate and talking with Esther for nearly a minute before seeing Katherine. Of course, it's easier when the episodes run 39-40 mins instead of 43 but that's how you do it!

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3 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Perhaps you can add it to the vault? ;);)

 

I'm curious to see what they edited.

 

Will do tomorrow! 🙂

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1 minute ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

is it true the show didn't update the intro from 2003-2012?

They stopped adding new headshots for characters in this style around 2005-2006 I believe and just kept recycling headshots of the same people by 2012.

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27 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Jack is such a punk, I was team Victor all the way back then. He should have built his own business instead of losing his father's and trying to steal Victor's! So great how he went from practically rolling his eyes at the beginning of the episode to nearly $%&!ing his pants by the end. 

 

I love the throwaway line where Jill says "maybe I'll invite my son Billy for the summer..." knowing what's to come. It's so rich.

 

I agree that LLB was really good in those scenes, as was DD... the tension when Christine comes home and wants to be alone and Mary is there, and then she finally gets to tell Paul. Makes me mad thinking again how 20 years later Nikki runs her over and kills her baby and makes her infertile but the Newmans act like Christine is an awful person for thinking she should face consequences for that. And poor Mary, being so Catholic and having all those kids but never really getting a grandchild to raise except for tween Heather that one summer and Heather didn't even know who she really was.

 

Yes, Jack in business mode was a punk, but I loved every moment. Business stuff is when Bergman excelled the most (versus the love stuff). It's also when he resembled TL Jack the most.

 

Foreshadowing! It helps when the show knows where it's going and doesn't make sh!t up as it goes along.

 

13 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

And I was young when this went down, but wasn't Victoria fighting them tooth and nail while Victor was believed dead thus the scene with her today? 

 

Yes, she vowed to crush them in her own mini-me way (which was lovely) and there was that fun stuff with making it seem like she fired Ryan so he could spy on Jack and Brad and trying to seduce Brad. but indirectly. 

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1 hour ago, All My Shadows said:

I just found it! Whew, I was starting to think it never happened lol I think it was less racy and more comical because it's so random. This clip is kinda washed out and there's terrible static over the music, but there she is.

 

 

WOW. What on earth were they thinking? That had to have been some smart ass intern sneaking something in...

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1 hour ago, All My Shadows said:

I just found it! Whew, I was starting to think it never happened lol I think it was less racy and more comical because it's so random. This clip is kinda washed out and there's terrible static over the music, but there she is.

 

Wow. Other than VR's part, I have NEVER seen that one. Impressed.

1 hour ago, YRBB said:

 

Yes, Jack in business mode was a punk, but I loved every moment. Business stuff is when Bergman excelled the most (versus the love stuff). It's also when he resembled TL Jack the most.

 

Foreshadowing! It helps when the show knows where it's going and doesn't make sh!t up as it goes along.

 

 

Yes, she vowed to crush them in her own mini-me way (which was lovely) and there was that fun stuff with making it seem like she fired Ryan so he could spy on Jack and Brad and trying to seduce Brad. but indirectly. 

Yay!!! It wasn't in my head then. :)

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9 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

By the way guys, I had posted this episode and the ones around it on YouTube before:

 

Thanks! That was my favorite era of the show 😭

 

I know you might have responded to this a million times but let me ask you again: is there a way to see the whole list of unlisted episodes you have posted on YT? 

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I want to complain about Y&R's current music cues some more.

 

 

This isn't a horrible scene, it's not good but it's not horrible, however listen to that music. It's like a damn lullaby playing under an intense scene. And that end EVERY scene with that same music. It doesn't make any sense to me.

 

Same concept (with better acting and direction):

 

 

Listen to that score! So tense and foreboding and then it crescendos in perfect synch with the action in the scene. It's marvelous. Besides that the slap was about 13 years in the making, so even if the music wasn't so amazing it still would've been impactful.

 

Anyway, here's some trivia. Of the 5 episodes airing next week in celebration of the Winters family, 3 of them aired on a Wednesday...

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25 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

Anyway, here's some trivia. Of the 5 episodes airing next week in celebration of the Winters family, 3 of them aired on a Wednesday...

Ok I don’t want to laugh at that, but that’s just sad and embarrassing. Oh Winters Wednesdays...

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