Taoboi

Because she's a Webber, Liz should be lead. So many popular pairings that she had a spoil of riches to choose from with all of them back in town SINGLE when she was SINGLE and the writers did NOTHING. Yes, I'm STILL bitter. Such a no brainer that she is not featured even more. FACTS. She really doesn't need Lucky to flourish. Just better writing/writers. Very much love all of this. I think it's why Korte/CVE second year has worked so well because it has found a similar mix of this. Granted not in the way that I would like, but the pieces are there. Like you say, they really just have to be willing to make those tweaks. I would also add that it couldn't hurt to write romance (or even passion) like adults and not interchangeable juvenile teens. It's giving latter years OLTL but not as well-written. And rightly so! Same for Genie. Frank...can stay pressed. It goes without saying I agree with everyone in that last paragraph right down to Val. I feel that frustration. Even people who don't like Liz can see it from an objective soap POV.

SOON...

5-27 Honestly...I liked it. I think Judy Tate has won me over with her one-on-ones. I really thought it was a good episode. Except for two things. I said it before and I'll say it again...this show stays with the narrative of Ted as Straight Man to Silk Press Sheila's craziness. If they want those two together (or doing what I mentioned first year which was Ted and Nicole in separate stories so we the audience get to know them only for them to return to Nicole/Ted/SPS down the line) so badly...just do it already. I didn't believe Ted when he stood up to SPS at the start of the episode and the fact that he did nothing after they were off camera at the press conference did nothing to make me believe him and his boundaries now. I loved that we got some Smith/Richardson family scenes this episode. They really have been few and far between in those scenes. So I find them fun to watch. Meanwhile, that Martin/Ty scene was so unexpected and really resonated as a gay man. Not to mention it was a father and son talking about having sex for the first time. The layers. And oh? It's good we are actually getting the fallout from Ty and Jessica sleeping together for the first time. A nice and relatable teen story. Let me say that again...a TEEN story. lol. Given that Ty and Jessica's growing rift has been a thing, but it fell into the backburner along with the cotillion, it's good to see it back upfront. I'm rooting for them to make it. And we know I love seeing...THE HAVE-NOTS. I would have liked to see a little bit more of the tea. But still a cute little scene. I'm not here at all for Ashley. And I was shocked to see Derek's dad. It's a shame he has never appeared before now. That brings me to what I was not liking. It feels so slight because I really enjoyed the episode BUT... I don't like that Jacob still doesn't have enough POV about Derek's death. In fact, he feels too adjusted. Compared to Shanice...where I see and feel her grief over Derek...I don't get that from Jacob. I don't think that is all on the writing, but the writing is not helping. I actually loved the professionalism of the press conference (though I giggled at it being at the nurses' hub), but I didn't like SPS hijacking it. Not surprised. And then Cartoon Leslie at it again with Ted. Just ugh!!! I was looking forward to a lot of the fallout from the plasma ring storyline. Among that was hostility between Jacob and Grayson, tension between Martin and Smitty over Smitty's role in the plasma ring, and as mentioned Jacob's POV. So the fact they are just brushing past ALL of it is just...no words. Especially if they are going to continue talking about the Impaler. And again...why did Derek die if they are going to do all of this? Again...I enjoyed the episode, but I can't say the plot beats didn't bug me.

But to piggyback off this, we all speculate and articulate our ideas about how we would like stories to go all the time. Where it's here, another soap thread, or the Housewives thread. Heck, we have discussed quite a few situations with Kat, the helmet, and SPS's comeuppance since Kat let her black Veronica Mars side out last year, hoping for a courtroom to appear in sight. I don't see how that was any difference. Mind you... @DramatistDreamer and I have discussed soap story ideas for years which is why we can make in-jokes about it now (like us discussing cotillion). Cuz that one I mentioned about Y&R was uncannily when that happened in real time. And haven't we alleged for ages about Josh Morrow ghost watching this board. Which whether he does or not...them camera angles DID change after I referenced them consistently when Nick was with Sally (and JM upped his fitness game in the middle of storyline). Just saying. I like (when I get time) reading everyone's posts. After all it is a discussion board about the episodes and the stories within said episodes and the direction those stories are going. Okay...everyone, but the ones who know who they are and what they are doing. So I just had to put in my 2 cents rather than the usual scroll on by.

I meant to come back and say... 1...you suuuure did. and 2...loved it then. Loved it even more now. Playing catch-up on this week and SPS is driving me up the wall. Time for comeuppance.

Same. See? Now THIS is good soap. Thank you for this. Sometimes I feel like the only person here for the teen stories. And there really aren't too many teen/youngfolks stories on soaps these days that feel young. I liked BTG teens for the most part (and the B&B young'uns, GH Gio&Emma, not sure if DAYS is still really teening) and wish they had more of them. Perhaps this summer? And yes to Kat and Deanna who seem to have so much in common and are yet so different, too.

Same. I loved the little picture that was floating around on Twitter like a good promo for revenge. If Doug comes back, it should be like that.

And I am ready for the egg on her face.

The holler I just let out.

smh. if that man don't leave already...

Well as Erika Slezak famously said...Higley writes events.

At long last...THE ROYALS SEASON 3. I've been waiting a loooooong time since the library stopped getting dvds for it after Season 2. And it's now on my Roku channel and I'm too much of a completist not to finish. Here's looking at you @DaytimeFan who knows how much I love seeing a Dame Joan Collins sighting even if I am far off from my next one.

Very. He can keep right on sweating.

HAVE-NOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell the truth and shame that devil.

Did Malcolm even make another appearance?

Nice body, but yes that was how he was coming across to me as well (sidenote...it also had me wondering if PastRJ could even pull that off). It was unexpected of Will, but I'm glad he did it. If there is going to be a young male rivalry (Y&R take note that they are YOUNG), then let's rival. It seems like everyone thinks Remy, but it would be inspired if it's Li. We are overdue an appearance from her. Intrigued all the same.

Same for me as well like what I just written. Both stories have been going on for a while (not helped by the stalling) so I would love for either/both to build to a climax now that the cotillion is over. For me, I would love the Joey reveal more. It has gone on long enough and Vanessa has been so smug/delulu for so long that it has stakes to it. Add on the fallout for her kids (and the thrill a good amount of the audience would have to the smug look wiped off Vanessa's face), and it could be good. And lest we forget...Joey has the trump card of Martin's Secret still if the walls truly close in on him. Mind you, I don't want to wait until November Sweeps for Hayley to be exposed, but I don't mind it going on and climaxing in summer now that Hayley's poisoning is now having effect again.

5-26 Watching this episode and now that the cotillion is over...I couldn't help but wonder which story would be the next one to hit climax. The Hayley storyline finally...or the truth about Doug now that the twins were zeroing in on Joey and Vanessa? Because both stories got movement going again this episode. And it was better for it. First Drew on GH got his hand twitching and now Bill here? hehe. But at least at last the poison that Hayley has gone back to using on him has started to work again. And I liked that they mentioned in her talk with Randy that it IS supposed to be slow...not Hayley overdosing him which she had stopped doing. Fingers crossed they don't lose the momentum on it again and just let it build and explode. I was here for Kat and her zingers this episode. And of course her talking common sense to her dad. I can't believe (okay I can) that Ted is that stupid. But the writers really are bound and determined for him to play Straight Man to SilkPress's craziness. And I hated having SilkPress back. Last week was the better without her. Moreso if it is going to be Cartoon Leslie time!!! You mean to tell me she could not even give sad shade to Derek? REALLY? I at least appreciated that Eva actually cared. I know that I've said that I will take Nicole anyway that I can get her. But...dare I say it...it's time for the next story turn in this Carlton/Kial storyline as well. I think (especially with the add-on of the Ted fantasies) that I'm actually growing bored with it. At least I do like how both sides of the triangle has grown and that I'm not sure personally which one I would like her with or who would have the most drama that I would want her with them...hehe. Le sigh. Deanna, Deanna, Deanna. I kinda figured it was a fantasy and not an alive Doug. Or...is it? Deanna kinda acted like he was real at the last minute. That said...I know it was debated the meaning of it over the weekend with the cliffhanger what that could mean for Deanna. I definitely don't want Deanna weakened because she can be a good drive to story and played by a stronger actress. And even though it sounded like in conversation she definitely has Joey and Vanessa pegged, what does it mean that she's talking to herself? Or was Doug a ghost? I could lean into a ghost and Deanna is avenging him. Anything that will get us to the next part of this story...and hopefully keep Deanna (and Donnell) on canvas...works for me. Randy and Silk Press Sheila as a C plot? Hmmm. Good start so far.

5-26 Not going to lie. Off to a good start. And how can I dislike it when I have had open shirt Finn for two straight episodes. LOL!!! God, that man has a body. Vicki Donavon I am soooo jealous of you! ;) I am taking it that Deacon is now the owner of TWO places of establishment. And I like it. I like that Brad Bell got the jump on Frank Valentini and started a summer set early (cuz we know the annual pool set should be up and running very, very SOON on GH). I liked the vibe and that adorable host who was really good at her job...I know my hospitality is showing (and I like the bubbliness, but efficientness of the actress...hope to see more of her). I LOVE all the extras (hot extras at that!)...especially coming off of watching the cotillion episodes of BTG which was also full of extras. And GH which I've been binging with its extras. It was also really great to see Taylor/Deacon together at last. Which brings me to Sheila. Good to FINALLY get an update. She moved out. She has stalled on signing the divorce papers (uh oh). And she has a roommate. So...I did like the update and already setting up for the potential next leg in the Taylor/Deacon/Sheila saga. But...I kinda wish we had seem more of Sheila on screen. Especially since their tale is the reason for the creative reinassance that B&B has been on. Hahahaha! at Will sucker punching RJ. Was it mean? Yep. BUT RJ had been leering at Electra all throughout the first episodes of this week and really sticking his presence in-between Will and Electra. Which would be okay if Electra was giving him googlyeyes, but she was not. She looked uncomfortable with RJ around for the most part. And I giggled at her thinking those two and Dylan would get along. GIRL...this ain't Dawson's Creek...it's Bold and the Beautiful. lol. And then Hope signing the papers...only to find out that Steffy was actually going to refocus on her line was juicy. Though the Spencers were coming across like a rich version of the Spectras in the episodes with Donna nagging. I hope they hold on to the secret just a little bit longer than the Dylan/Remy connection secret. There appears to be a lot of moving parts going on again after that weird rut in middle of May. So cautiously optimistic that they springing into the next set of A, B, and C stories which actually sound intriguing.

IKR. Perhaps Rory was on vaca?

Yeah it will probably go down like that...just like Dante and Valerie. From your lips to God's ears. Goodness knows the cameraman has definitely been up to the task in both of their brief spats.

lol

lol

Just to be sure... @Maxim did you get around to watching cotillion?