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I have no problem with Dani and Andre’s fantasy scenes. They’re a classic P&G soap staple. Everytime I see Joey I am reminded I have an FF button. This time I forgot to activate it immediately so I caught the name of his sister. Oh God yet another new, unseen before character that will add nothing to the show.

Yes!! So ironic.

And Judith Chapman subbed for JW. I agree, it's fascinating.

That cracked me up. Brilliant. As for the show I believe two things are true at once: they have issues when it comes to structuring stories. they’ve been deliberately coasting it for whatever reason maybe in attendance of a multiple year renewal. I expect things to pick up steadily from the Cotillion on.

I’m a 40-year-old TikTok addict myself and I would like to clarify something. While the app - or better yet, the consumption model - has definitely affected my attention span and my memory, the model is mostly about value. If I’m watching a video on my stupid phone I want it to give me value (ie: valuable information or entertainment) without wasting any time. This is not some drama that you have to build up. And I’m not holding my breath to watch your AI-made opening credits or to listen to you introducing yourself with your extensive resume for over 50 seconds. There’s an art in giving value to viewers and some TikTokers have mastered it. So what I’m saying is that while attention span is an issue: A) it’s always been the case - that’s why shows have been getting faster and tighter over the years; b) if you as a writer commit to giving value to a viewer, the viewer will recognize it. Having multiple characters sit down at restaurants talking to no end about something happened offscreen in a place we’ll never see, in a scene we’ll never see… is not value. Not one bit.

How can anyone not love Kat? She is the moment. As soon as she smelled a rat, she took matters into her own hands. She keeps things moving and exciting. There’s so many shades and facets to her, she’s become my favorite character. It’s crazy these writers are still living off that damn anniversary. That was the only consequential thing that I remember happening and it dates back to last year 😅 The other consequential story was Martin’s, I guess (it’s resurfacing only now), and maybe Dani and Andre? Not much more. oh yes the gambling - but that whole bubble is so forgettable. Ashley and Greyson are possibly more boring than Ashley and Derek. I’m not sure why they are apparently so well received but good for you people I guess. I don’t get the excitement about the Lia actress. She’s doing a decent job with her cartoonish character but in my opinion it’s nothing to write home about. Her voice and her delivery are also pretty mono-tone. Can’t wait for her to go. Won’t miss her. I agree that visually the show is doing a wonderful job. The lighting, the camera angles, the wardrobe are incredible. The set designer, however, should go.

It’s funny how I agree with everything Jessica says but she’s portrayed as a dimwit SJW to laugh at. This show can be so condescending. It’s apparent to me the show has been coasting for whatever reason awaiting the Cotillion and possibly the renewal. I’m expecting things to pick up dramatically because right now I find myself looking at my phone the whole time. It was weird having Smitty of all people being naked for that long with his father-in-law. Speaking of shirtless: Jordi brought back so many memories 🥲 Sorry Joey must d!e a painful death.

The last thing we need on the show is another parents/family switch. Especially because it wouldn’t change anything long term. The writers have shown they can create the foundations for a show but their problem is they can’t handle the ensuing drama.

Not Joey cruising on Martin and Smitty lol Love this. I wish that was actually something the writers had in mind. We saw Dr. Bauer. A 50-something Black man. Must've been Mel's hugely SORASed son. Thank you! I agree with everything except for Joey being interesting. Big agree on everything. When they doled out the sets, they were high on Dupree Febreze or something. Also agree on the unnecessary coffee set. I started FFing through their scenes a few weeks ago and my life's improved dramatically. Do it. Interesting take! THIS. Ultimately that's the real problem and it's extremely annoying.

Unlike most of you, I am NOT happy with this. It's the level of MEGA vanillaness we don't need (if you catch my drift). In the meantime @Errol @Toups can you update the title?

SAME!

I've noticed a new yet familiar face in the crowd - opened a new thread in the Spoiler section about it..

While looking at clips from the recent BTG renewal announcement on the set, I couldn't help but notice a woman looking like Ashley Jones (Bridget, B&B) So I looked at Ashley's IG and guess what she was wearing yesterday: And guess where she's eating at: So the question is: is Bridget coming over to give Nurse Ashley a run for her money in vanilla-ness? Or is AJ coming in as a new character? Original video here:

100%.

Very well said, thank you.

Yeah this is kind of the point of discussion boards. To theorize, discuss, hear each other’s takes and opinions. And if you read between the lines (though everything has been pretty much laid out already), my point is that they should have found a better excuse.

Sorry for double post/quoting - I forgot to mention that this reminded me BTG has that kind of dynamic with Nicole, Anita and that other recurring character (the sanctimonious woman) who act like mother figures to Laura (those 5 times a year we see her).

I guess you’re referring to @Broderick who theorized the Plasma story was a long-term arc to put Nicole in danger and eventually reunite her with Ted. Not sure if you’re caught up with the show, but so far everything points towards Broderick being right again (he was right about Nicole having the BRCA gene). Nobody has ever implied that the Plasma angle itself would have been logical or profound… As for this week’s shows, I was shocked at Dana and Marcel’s conversation. 5 minutes after introducing Darlene, the writers were already discussing another character whom we’ve never seen (Sheila). I swear they spent 5 minutes discussing Sheila and Darlene’s relationship, how they get along and all. Who cares?!? Will these writers ever be able to tell stories with the characters they already have on canvas? Not to mention that this week another invisible character resurfaced: Madison’s mother is driving story lol. It’s embarrassing.

I think we are discussing two different things. You are discussing Vernon’s characterization. I’m indifferent to that. What I am insinuating is that the writers don’t see lobbying as a negative thing. Judging on the words they used, they are portraying the activity as something that their heroes or winners would have the right to do, no questions asked.

I’m sorry - the thing is this is not presented as a negative, as a flaw in how the Duprees operate. The way it’s worded, it’s just another Tuesday for the Duprees and for the writers. It seems they don’t understand this is a problem.

We all know what lobbying is, however it’s nothing to brag about if you’re supposedly all about the rights of the people. It signals you’re favoring corporations as opposed to its workers.

I’m constantly astonished that in the US this is an ordinary, legit, almost positive thing to say: “Over the years, apparently Victor has backed Vernon’s political campaigns, while Vernon has championed legislation benefiting Newman Enterprises”.

God those covers are ugly. But I guess at least they're not AI slop.

I agree. Same goes for Nicole and her therapy speak. HAHAHAHAHAH! And to think Lynette was just there with Hayley a minute earlier promising she'd leave town...! Re: new opening I wish they dropped this alphabetical order they're so OCD about as it strings completely different characters together, but anyway it seems it's brightened and more saturated. This is the new one: This is the older version:

I don't understand... why should I spend money when all the episodes are uploaded on YT?