Darn

I’m numb! I guess you could do worse, like Griffith for instance, but I honestly can’t even envision what an AMC TV movie looks like.

I’ve always thought they made Fen gay because Christian LeBlanc is (they also don’t care about Fen so it was a real “why not? sure” kind of decision). Does that make sense? Not really but I never claimed to make sense!

I have to disagree with you there, there's a place on daytime to tell really any type of story and it's a medium that feels almost ideally suited to cover the slow deterioration caused by Alzheimer's. I think the real problem is when they seemingly become the only major storyline happening, as I felt with Mike and Dina. The shows had their leads in these achingly depressing stories where all it felt like anyone was doing was watch old people die. It's a really hard story to tell I'll give you that. There's no sort of "beautifully dying" element to it like a heroine dying of cancer as her love interest cries manly tears while her rival curses the gods in the hospital chapel.

The flip soaps have done in the past 15 or so years will never not fascinate me. Being over 40 used to mean your job was in jeopardy, now over 50 vets basically have job security. We've gone from Phelps telling Jacklyn Zeman that no one wants to see anyone over 40 have sex, to great grandparents leading story while their grandkids sit around twiddling their thumbs. Of course this is a result of their desperation to gain new young viewers so much so that they alienated their existing ones, which in turn made them equally desperate to keep whoever was left. That actually makes me wonder what AMC would look like now if they'd managed to stay on network on as long as GH has.

Thank you @Franko and @EricMontreal22 for answering my question about Erica's fame. I've been on a tear watching 80s Susan Lucci interviews and clips of a young Erica and I'm fully grasping how she became so incredibly popular. My whole life she just...was, so it's been a lot of fun seeing how refreshing she must have been to the daytime audience. You knew that no matter the story that if Erica was on she'd say something so biting or hilariously narcissistic that you couldn't help but laugh. There was a short clip in a compliation I watched where Erica is talks about growing up in Pine Valley, describing herself as "a rose amongst the weeds" while doing a faux humble little headshake and it's got to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Susan Lucci is truly a singular talent. Daytime has plenty of heroines and vixens and funny characters but Erica managed to be all three and you bought all of them. I think that's likely why she didn't win the Emmy for so long. I mean, yes okay maybe she's not the best dramatic actress but I'm more of the mind that they struggled to categorize her, she didn't fit snuggly into the "dramatic" lane even when the material was melodrama, then the losing streak started to eclipse whatever was onscreen until she finally delivered a solidly dramatic performance through and through in a year where her competition was schlock like Kim Zimmer crying over her clone dying. I'm glad you saw the light @Vee , and as usual admitted that I'm right! I kid but really, I could see Kelsey doing that. She was very immature and stupid. I wouldn't have enjoyed watching it or the damage it would've done to a legacy character but I'd totally buy her pulling some BS like that once she got a hint at the attention it might garner. Walt Willey is a scholar and a gentleman (and hotter now at 75 than he was 30 years ago) but I absolutely hated Jack. He was not only terribly boring but a judgmental prick. I hate the trope of the bad girl falling over themselves to get the approval of some holier than thou full man. I don't like that he was Erica's endgame. She needed someone who challenged her, someone who appreciated the challenge she brought, not someone who liked her best when she dulled her edges. Jack's relationship with her makes me think of Marilyn Monroe and the men in her life (without all the abuse), how what attracted them to her is exactly what they couldn't wait to cage once they got her.

Ally! It's kind of insane that our options are the retired and elderly or someone brand new. These soaps haven't invested in anyone over the past 20 years? If they can go a single episode without characters sitting in a restaurant discussing their new job/potential job I'd consider it a win!

They definitely look alike. Same nose and hooded eyes.

Does anyone know when Erica became famous in-universe? When she went from working model to making headlines.

12 year-old me just thought Lee Meriwether looked too hot to be a grandma. It was jarring going from matronly to former beauty queen, especially next to Ray McDonnell.

Don't feed @Vee 's ego! He bites!

I'd rather they invest in a character with Kristina's baggage. They've tried repeatedly to give her story that resonates with the audience and it just hasn't worked. Time to put her on ice for half a decade. Mind you, I say this as someone who has enjoyed Mansi's unhinged demon spawn more often than not. But I am rather tired of little miss sanctimonious nutjob judging everyone in town left and right.

Turned it on again just now and it's on the SAME EPISODE. I feel like I'm losing my mind. Can I get s Groundhog's Day that's more fun? I'd like to know this too as I really enjoyed Edmund and Brooke. I was sad that the triangle didn't go on longer after Maria returned.

Yeah, I first tuned in last week so today I expected to them to a couple weeks ahead by now but no, it's the same batch episodes I saw before. In fact I turned it at the EXACT same moment: One of the Peirces recalling his poor dead girlfriend as Janet and Laura stood there looking like the cover of some lesbian romance novel. The episodes that followed were just great. Arlene is the definition of pathetic. Begging Alec to have sex with her, blackmailing him until he did. Poor dumb Hayley not catching on after hearing her mother MOAN her husband's name in her sleep. A classic PV Inn ladies' room clash between Erica, Brooke and Maria. Erica was just at her worst (because of the addiction), picking fights so petty even Opal called her out. It's kind of crazy how much faster characters were established. Maria (btw Eva LaRue is stronger actor than I ever gave her credit for) joined the show in 93. By 95 she was married to Edmund, two of her siblings were in frontburner romances and she and Edmud had been through 3 rounds of IVF. Edmund himself was only introduced a year before. Soaps used to be so good at introducing new characters and firmly establishing them on the canvas. Everyone claims soaps were sooooo slow but my god the current soaps are absolutely glacial comparatively. Maria is publicly humiliated over her fertility issues. Edmund happens to discuss it with Brooke. She tells him she can possibly help with adoption. Erica hears about this and inadvertently tells Maria. How long did that take? 2 and a half episodes. That would've taken two weeks on GH nowadays.

You mean that beta loser cuck? The guy who came in as this cool doctor with a beard from a war torn country in the Darkest Africa who now follows around a woman who is very obviously still in love with her ex-husband, and also pregnant by him, because…I don’t know? Brain tumor? Carbon monoxide poisoning? He’s just plain stupid? I hate that they have ruined all the potential that Isaiah had by making him a simp for both Jordan and Portia. I thought it was bad enough when he had no self-respect while dating Jordan, allowing her to keep the relationship secret because she was working undercover (how’s that going Robotnik?) but whatever’s he become with Portia is just nuts. Speaking of nuts, I wish he would find his. Maybe they’re in Jordan’s center console. There’s no need for him to be practically elated at the idea that the woman he was having an affair with is pregnant by her husband. Let the brother have a modicum of self-respect.

This show is so heavy-handed when they want us to consider someone a “good person”. The moment they decide that Jacinda is not worth keeping around, all of the bad parts for history will be emphasized. It’s very annoying. Anyway, I hope Michael walks in on her and Kristina using their index fingers on each other in the Quartermaine living room.

Forgive me but I just can’t forget that only a few months ago she accepted $50,000 to help frame Drew for drug use. And then later on admitted to smoking crack with Scott Chandler in the cheapest room at the Metro Court! She’s not a great person!

This is so sweet. I actually thought of Susan’s win last night.

And he WON! I remember thinking he was such a good actor, him and Amanda Seyfried were the standouts especially next to ol‘ demon eyes and Micah Alberti. It’s amazing he’s now an Oscar winner. Wild. I’m happy for him like he’s family.

I can’t post videos here!! @Vee MBJ and Amanda Seyfried had a mini reunion on the red carpet last night at the Critics’ Choice Awards. It was very sweet. Google it. And Amanda posted this pic on her stories of them during their AMC days. Reggie and Joanie, my Shayla.

Nice of Run BLQ to wear her best gold chain to the family Christmas party. How is her grandmother more stylish than her? Jane looked lovely as always. She's just so stunning. In the corner we had Michael dressed like he's one of the Roxbury guys. I can't wait until this shooting story is over so Rory can be hot, Michael can make big moves that we see and be free of the dayplayer we're supposed to believe is a worthwhile love interest for him. Trina acting like a toddler over the dissolution of her parents' marriage as if they've been together all her life is crazy work. Girl, you're nearly old enough to be off their insurance and guess what? You were never on his because you met him two days ago. Where the hell is Taggert?! Jordan's a whole weirdo for showing up to Portia's family's holiday party. I know she has literally nothing else going on in her life, her son has disappeared and her "undercover" operation ended when those Sidwell checks started clearing but yeesh. Curtis is the same level of angry no matter what's upset him. He's always at Field Trip Chaperone Upset Over Minor Change in Schedule. Brook Kerr is carrying That Black Storyline on her biracial back but man, Portia always sounds like she's about to kill someone or just finished killing someone. I know @Vee loves them but Brad and Britt are not the gay icons this show thinks they are. Watching the two of them Yas Queen-ing it up is painful. Also Parry Shen simply isn't a good actor. He's also not hot! Sure perhaps Marco is evil but who cares (if you've ever met a gay man you know how very little they care)?! Is Lucas really expected to be torn because mid broke loser Brad and maybe evil but very hot and rich and hot Marco? Please! We really needed Sonny at three celebrations huh? So Maurice could fulfill his contractual obligation to smile. The man is clearly in pain! Let him go home!

No fck that! They then left her because she didn't immediately forgive this random woman! I'd disown all of 'em!

Skye at her big age with her insane personal history acting like an adolescent girl who just found her parents for the first time was grating. Girl, you are 40. What is going on? I never thought a short stint by Erika Slezak would so turn me off the show but I've barely watched since Tracy's entire family turned their back on her for this stranger. This stranger who agreed to steal their family home because Tracy wasn't nice to her one time. You had Brook Lynn and Michael saying insane sh!t like "That doesn't sound like Ronnie". It doesn't??? You don't know this lady. The fuuuuck are you talking about? Tracy will forgive them or rather they will "forgive" Tracy (for being right) but I'm disillusioned, it's all left such a bad taste in my mouth.

Thank you for further proving my point with the nightmare fuel that is this image.

As a professional graphic designer all of these logos have been...terrible. I don't understand the point of this thread. "Let's make new versions of existing soap logos but worse?" And now we're doing AI images of sets that exist? Is everyone okay? Has the rise in AI slop melted our collective conscious?