11 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

8-01-1966  @Titus Andronicus@DRW50@carolineg@Khan@vetsoapfan@JAS0N47@slick jones @j swift@jam6242@OzFrog@janea4old@Paul Raven@AbcNbc247@will81@Franko@beebs@dc11786@Michael@Dion@Dr Neil Curtis@asafi@Bright Eyes@Gray Bunny@Wendy@Soapsuds@Tonksadora

Thank you. This is the first s/l I ever remember. I've always said that I began watching in 1968, which was admittedly a guess. Now I know that I actually began watching the summer of 1966. It's so odd that I don't remember any Julie before SSH when here's the proof that I saw another one 🤪 & that I should have recalled this one. Mostly my memory is of a swing moving.

I just realized that I was just guessing when I began to follow first soaps because I'm too lazy to look it up. But, if it's somebody else I will go & look whatever it is up, when I won't do it for myself. Does that make me a sucker?! 😂

Edited April 22, 20223 yr by Tonksadora
I just had some insight.

18 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

After Doug and Julie left in 1984, he sold it to Liz and Neil and they renamed it Blondie’s. Idk what happened to The Body Connection either lol I would assume Chris sold it around the time he  bought Shenanigans. 

Thanks!

I’m watching that year now lol so I’ll find out in a couple of weeks 

There was also a third restaurant around that time called The Park Cafe and The Salem Inn also had a restaurant. Plus, you could've always gotten some chowder or another snack at the Brady Fish Market. 

As for now, I’m on my way to @Soapsuds’ basement 😂😂😂

Be on the lookout for the two "famous" Salem waitresses from Java Cafe and Brady Pub. Lisa Williams (Lisa the Brady Pub waitress) was a background waitress in Shenanigans and Jacee Jule (Patty the Johnny Angels/Java Cafe waitress) was a background waitress at the Park Cafe.

Much appreciation for the tag, @victoria foxton. When I get a free moment, I'll be sure to watch.

(What can I say? Too many long nights at Soapsuds' Cellar.

9 hours ago, j swift said:

 

John seems really happy for Sami.  I mean, REALLY happy.

Always interesting to see more of Susan Martin, one of those early characters that have always intrigued me.

3 hours ago, te. said:

Always interesting to see more of Susan Martin, one of those early characters that have always intrigued me.

She is one of my first handful of favorites! So soon to be Susan Hunter Martin. I used to say her name over & over again. Sing-song.

9 hours ago, Khan said:

John seems really happy for Sami.  I mean, REALLY happy.

John seems to really be enjoying that striptease.  He probably stole those pants from Sami later lol

5 hours ago, te. said:

Always interesting to see more of Susan Martin, one of those early characters that have always intrigued me.

It's always hard for me to get a read on how/why Susan was so popular in the few episodes I have seen.  I wish there was more of DA/Susan available.  From what I can tell Susan is a much more subtle character than Julie.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

It's always hard for me to get a read on how/why Susan was so popular in the few episodes I have seen.  I wish there was more of DA/Susan available.  From what I can tell Susan is a much more subtle character than Julie.

There were an episode or two of post-David marriage available where she showed a bit of a more nasty/bitter streak that I thought was interesting, but I think she's probably one of those characters that's hard to get with random episodes taken out of context.

3 minutes ago, te. said:

There were an episode or two of post-David marriage available where she showed a bit of a more nasty/bitter streak that I thought was interesting, but I think she's probably one of those characters that's hard to get with random episodes taken out of context.

Hopefully, one day there will be more available to see.  I am definitely interested in seeing the progression of Susan and this storyline.  Obviously, we know what happened to Julie through the years, but it would be interesting to know what happened to Susan.  I wonder if the show ever considered bringing Susan or her daughter back later on or if the show just completely moved into a new era where she wouldn't fit.

17 minutes ago, carolineg said:

John seems to really be enjoying that striptease.  He probably stole those pants from Sami later lol

You know, between his reaction to that striptease and his behavior during the NYE episode, I'm really starting to wonder about John.  Are they setting us up for an Alzheimer's storyline?  (Say it ain't so, Ron!)

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

It's always hard for me to get a read on how/why Susan was so popular in the few episodes I have seen.  I wish there was more of DA/Susan available.  From what I can tell Susan is a much more subtle character than Julie.

No doubt that they all had good writing. That's a given. But, I remember reading about Denise Alexander's popularity, Schemering said she was probably the most consistently popular romantic heroine of the soaps. And, I always thought what a remarkable compliment that was. Since she'd been working since she was a child, she had lots of credits & tons of experience on the job. I always found her very appealing & liked all of her characters - Susan, Leslie, Mary/Marisa.

2 minutes ago, Tonksadora said:

No doubt that they all had good writing. That's a given. But, I remember reading about Denise Alexander's popularity, Schemering said she was probably the most consistently popular romantic heroine of the soaps. And, I always thought what a remarkable compliment that was. Since she'd been working since she was a child, she had lots of credits & tons of experience on the job. I always found her very appealing & liked all of her characters - Susan, Leslie, Mary/Marisa.

Interesting.  DA seems likeable from what I have seen of Susan/Leslie, but I have yet to see the huge appeal.  Granted, seeing clips years later is not a way to assess someone fairly as opposed to those who have seen her day in, day out in real time.  Her stories on Days sound very interesting to say the least.  I am very intrigued about the Peters brothers and the rape/sex in the park story.  It sounds very strange on paper.

9 minutes ago, Khan said:

You know, between his reaction to that striptease and his behavior during the NYE episode, I'm really starting to wonder about John.  Are they setting us up for an Alzheimer's storyline?  (Say it ain't so, Ron!)

I generally think it's Drake himself acting goofy and no one reigns him in.  It's weird how John moved from stealth spy to Grandpa John so quickly.  I also don't know if the aneurysm he had still affects his moods.  I don't think the show ever resolved that. It would be funny if that was Drake's motivation for acting so OTT happy, but the show has completely dropped the idea unbeknownst to him lol.  I would loathe an Alzheimer's story with John.  Could you even imagine?  Ron seems to like John/Marlena a little too much for that turn of events.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I would loathe an Alzheimer's story with John.  Could you even imagine?

It would just break our hearts too much to see John and Marlena endure that.  

8 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am very intrigued about the Peters brothers and the rape/sex in the park story.  It sounds very strange on paper.

It was a very ambiguous storyline.  Even as I was reading about it, I was never sure whether Eric and Susan's encounter was consensual.  It's the kind of story that could never play today.

8 minutes ago, Khan said:

It would just break our hearts too much to see John and Marlena endure that.  

It was a very ambiguous storyline.  Even as I was reading about it, I was never sure whether Eric and Susan's encounter was consensual.  It's the kind of story that could never play today.

I think Ron is perfectly content on having John save Marlena once a year from something sinister and I can't see him ever giving them a story that deep.  I think most fans would hate it as well.

From what I read about the Susan/Greg story I get the feeling it probably was rape, but the show backtracked on that for whatever reason making Susan have consensual sex in the park with a stranger.  I would love to know if anyone on here saw it or even have any of the mags from back then.  I remember @beebs used to do magazine recaps, but I can't remember if they went that far back.  It really sounds like a mess of a story and I wonder if it played as badly as it does on paper.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think Ron is perfectly content on having John save Marlena once a year from something sinister and I can't see him ever giving them a story that deep.  I think most fans would hate it as well.

From what I read about the Susan/Greg story I get the feeling it probably was rape, but the show backtracked on that for whatever reason making Susan have consensual sex in the park with a stranger.  I would love to know if anyone on here saw it or even have any of the mags from back then.  I remember @beebs used to do magazine recaps, but I can't remember if they went that far back.  It really sounds like a mess of a story and I wonder if it played as badly as it does on paper.

Agree, on both counts.