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10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I posted it during the livestream that there definitely was nothing that hadn't already been covered in previous interviews being explored.  I was just so glad to see Eileen. Given, a few posters who popped up in this thread last year trying to spread the notion that Eileen was cognitively unable to do one of these livestreams (persons who don't seem to be around anymore, thankfully), I was just glad to see her. I was also tickled to hear her respond "Of course, I remember!" to a number of Locher's questions. It speaks of a lady who has been asked this question more than once and is perhaps weary of being asked whether she remembers something.

Go Eileen!!!

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17 hours ago, TVFAN1144 said:

I was hoping she would say why she decided to go back to North Carolina and what she has been doing there.

 

She did. It's where she grew up. She simply moved back home now that she's retired. It's a pretty common thing most people in show business do once they retire and leave the industry.

17 hours ago, TVFAN1144 said:

I was hoping she would say why she decided to go back to North Carolina and what she has been doing there.

 

She did. It's where she grew up. She simply moved back home now that she's retired. It's a pretty common thing most people in show business do once they retire and leave the industry.

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1 hour ago, adrnyc said:

 

She did. It's where she grew up. She simply moved back home now that she's retired. It's a pretty common thing most people in show business do once they retire and leave the industry.

 

She did. It's where she grew up. She simply moved back home now that she's retired. It's a pretty common thing most people in show business do once they retire and leave the industry.

Just glad she’s doing well 

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Did anyone watch the stuff 1980? I'm dying to read you guy's thoughts.

 The best for me was John and Dee's dysfunctional relationship. John's very riveting to watch. The Dobson's totally got him. I liked Cricket and Lyla's talk. I don't think i have ever seen Nancy be so ice cold with anyone. As she was with Joyce. The endless scenes of Dee and Brad making googly eyes at each other. As they wished each other well. On their upcoming weddings. Was rough to watch.   ATWT was so slow and boring for the most part.

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Thanks @victoria foxton. This seems to be the end of one episode and then another, with a few minutes of GL in between. I think that GL episode is on Youtube so that may help us with the date. 

That first episode has a transition shot between that googly-eyed, mustached baddie in the James story (who ends up kidnapping Barbara eventually - one of her 500 kidnappings in these years) and Brad, also googly-eyed and mustached. One was meant to be wicked, the other was meant to be our hero. Funnily enough I think the baddie is much more charismatic and attractive even though he is obviously not meant to be. 

What a live wire Joyce is. You can just feel the tortured energy from her and even as you are sympathetic toward her, you aren't surprised that Nancy, who spent her life trying not to be that type of woman, absolutely detests her. That ATWT fired Barbara Rodell and let Helen Wagner quit in this period, while parading a series of ingenues so wan they make Rosanna look like Lucinda Walsh, is truly sad. 

Did they intend to dress Dee like Alice in Wonderland? The dress, the headband, everything. Jacquie Schulz has an appeal to her, it's just what they do with her that is so dull.

Nice to see more of early Lyla, and of course Cricket, with her special line readings...

Veleka Gray reminds me of Lois Nettleton.

@Mitch you might enjoy this one too.

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12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks @victoria foxton. This seems to be the end of one episode and then another, with a few minutes of GL in between. I think that GL episode is on Youtube so that may help us with the date. 

That first episode has a transition shot between that googly-eyed, mustached baddie in the James story (who ends up kidnapping Barbara eventually - one of her 500 kidnappings in these years) and Brad, also googly-eyed and mustached. One was meant to be wicked, the other was meant to be our hero. Funnily enough I think the baddie is much more charismatic and attractive even though he is obviously not meant to be. 

What a live wire Joyce is. You can just feel the tortured energy from her and even as you are sympathetic toward her, you aren't surprised that Nancy, who spent her life trying not to be that type of woman, absolutely detests her. That ATWT fired Barbara Rodell and let Helen Wagner quit in this period, while parading a series of ingenues so wan they make Rosanna look like Lucinda Walsh, is truly sad. 

Did they intend to dress Dee like Alice in Wonderland? The dress, the headband, everything. Jacquie Schulz has an appeal to her, it's just what they do with her that is so dull.

Nice to see more of early Lyla, and of course Cricket, with her special line readings...

Veleka Gray reminds me of Lois Nettleton.

@Mitch you might enjoy this one too.

Ha..pervy Brad. I was watching at this time and I still don't remember how, if he was so in love with Dee...(did they have kiss or have sex..) he chooses to marry Annie instead, and how no one but John knows what is really happening.  The Dobson's did get John, but that was about it on ATWT so it became the John Dixon hour. That scene between Brad and Dee goes on and on..and it would work if the two actors had chemistry...fiiled with regret and longing, but it just drags on with these two. The Stewarts owning a silver mine is dumb.

Nancy is stone cold in this and so much different then the good grandma Marland made her. I like that she is steel here and her line reading "Lisa doesn't tell me what to do" ..ah Joyce, you in trouble girl! I liked that she could be the loving mom, grandma and friend, but would not take anyone's crap. Did the Dobson's have trouble writing that after coming off Bert Bauer..or was it just a dumb..lets make everything younger and force Wagner to quit?  I think it would have been fun to write a matriarch like her..part Alice Horton part Angela Channing. What coma is poor boring Mary in now..the one that came from her and Joyce arguing or when she got hit by a car?I actually think poor befulded Don is kind of sexy...but then I thought "fat" fat Ed Bauer...of which we get a glimpse here. was sexy too.

I liked this Lyla much better then the meek mouse Ann Sward played...she actually seemed tough and a former ho. Cricket isn't so bad here..she just could not carry a storyline and they were obviously going for a young Erica thing or to try to match Nola on GL..but they eventually figured it out and she would have two lines an episode. This Betsy is cuter then I remember and seems real, like someone you went to school with. How old was Reckle's Brad supposed to be..he seems so much older then Betsy and his line readings are weird.  What a dull character for the "hot hunk."

James was not as cartoony back then and he actually had parents which was totally forgotten later. I remember this as Babs gets prepared to be chased through the museum. I love that no one can figure out that Lars is up to no good just by looking at him!

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Mitch said:

Ha..pervy Brad. I was watching at this time and I still don't remember how, if he was so in love with Dee...(did they have kiss or have sex..) he chooses to marry Annie instead, and how no one but John knows what is really happening.  The Dobson's did get John, but that was about it on ATWT so it became the John Dixon hour. That scene between Brad and Dee goes on and on..and it would work if the two actors had chemistry...fiiled with regret and longing, but it just drags on with these two. The Stewarts owning a silver mine is dumb.

Nancy is stone cold in this and so much different then the good grandma Marland made her. I like that she is steel here and her line reading "Lisa doesn't tell me what to do" ..ah Joyce, you in trouble girl! I liked that she could be the loving mom, grandma and friend, but would not take anyone's crap. Did the Dobson's have trouble writing that after coming off Bert Bauer..or was it just a dumb..lets make everything younger and force Wagner to quit?  I think it would have been fun to write a matriarch like her..part Alice Horton part Angela Channing. What coma is poor boring Mary in now..the one that came from her and Joyce arguing or when she got hit by a car?I actually think poor befulded Don is kind of sexy...but then I thought "fat" fat Ed Bauer...of which we get a glimpse here. was sexy too.

I tend to be confused about the Brad/Dee timeline, if they ever even had a relationship. I know he came on before the Peter Simon character (Ian) died, and was initially conning Lisa - I can't remember, from the old clips, if John was already chasing after Dee when she was with Ian, or if all this started when Ian died. It's a bit odd now, looking back, to go directly into a love quad after Dee was supposed to be traumatized from Ian dying on top of her. And I don't understand why they needed the involvement with Annie - wasn't she meant to be in love with Jeff at this time? I was surprised he wasn't mentioned or shown anywhere in these episodes. Poor Annie seems so matronly. 

Then after she and John marry, he goes on trial for rape as she thinks she's sleeping with Brad, or whatever that was...I just don't remember if she ever actually ends up with Brad. Was he gone by the time the Dobsons returned? Or did the Dobsons write him out when they came back?

Sometimes I wonder why ATWT let Peter Reckell go, but I can kind of see it here - he's very pretty, but also stumbly and a bit generic. He had the same problem at Knots. I wonder if Bo was just the perfect fit for him. 

I agree that Suzanne Davidson is very likeable, and easy to watch. I can see why Meg Ryan said she initially got a bad response from fans in taking over (I know there was a Betsy between them).

My favorite part of that Nancy scene is when Joyce says, "Am I so terrible?" and Nancy....just.....pauses, before not even answering the question. Bone-chilling. That's what people watch soaps for, not "Stewart Mining." (I got a good laugh out of that little name card)

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18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I tend to be confused about the Brad/Dee timeline, if they ever even had a relationship. I know he came on before the Peter Simon character (Ian) died, and was initially conning Lisa - I can't remember, from the old clips, if John was already chasing after Dee when she was with Ian, or if all this started when Ian died. It's a bit odd now, looking back, to go directly into a love quad after Dee was supposed to be traumatized from Ian dying on top of her. And I don't understand why they needed the involvement with Annie - wasn't she meant to be in love with Jeff at this time? I was surprised he wasn't mentioned or shown anywhere in these episodes. Poor Annie seems so matronly. 

Then after she and John marry, he goes on trial for rape as she thinks she's sleeping with Brad, or whatever that was...I just don't remember if she ever actually ends up with Brad. Was he gone by the time the Dobsons returned? Or did the Dobsons write him out when they came back?

Sometimes I wonder why ATWT let Peter Reckell go, but I can kind of see it here - he's very pretty, but also stumbly and a bit generic. He had the same problem at Knots. I wonder if Bo was just the perfect fit for him. 

I agree that Suzanne Davidson is very likeable, and easy to watch. I can see why Meg Ryan said she initially got a bad response from fans in taking over (I know there was a Betsy between them).

My favorite part of that Nancy scene is when Joyce says, "Am I so terrible?" and Nancy....just.....pauses, before not even answering the question. Bone-chilling. That's what people watch soaps for, not "Stewart Mining." (I got a good laugh out of that little name card)

People were complaining that the Dobson's were just doing Ed/Holly/Roger/Rita here but it was not as sexy and fun.  No ONE not even John has energy in this quad. Apparently after Ian died in the "act" on top of poor Dee, she became as Marland would write on GL..."frigid" and afraid of sexual relations, so John Svengalied her and that part makes sense. The Brad part does not. he just appears out of nowhere, and stalks Dee while Annie moons over him, as he rips Nancy and Chris out of their land? How do Brad and Dee even have any kind of relationship and again, why marry poor dowdy Annie? Now if they had made Brad an ex of Dee's that she was in love with from before...and maybe he and Annie screw (after Dee rejects him) and she is preggers, so they marry, but both of regrets on the decision.

And DO NOT f*ck with Nancy Hughes here...bitch would take a few seconds from mixing the cake batter to freeze you to death with that cold stare! I love it and Wagner must have had fun playing it as she always was colder then Charita...

 

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