1 hour ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

Thank you! I am so glad that David Gale fan account has been sharing so many rarities and treasures. 

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Looks like they start with this episode.

 

Such a shame so little exists of a soap opera that was on air for 20 years! It's funny to think that people would set up tape recorders next to the tv as to not miss their favourite soap, but I guess people were more used to radio as a medium back then lol. 

6 minutes ago, te. said:

Such a shame so little exists of a soap opera that was on air for 20 years! It's funny to think that people would set up tape recorders next to the tv as to not miss their favourite soap, but I guess people were more used to radio as a medium back then lol. 

I often wonder just how many audio recordings were made and just rotted away, or taped over. There's a good chance every soap had fans recording it for years.

Thanks @DRW50 for the share.

I remember taping off TV in the 70's. I got into Mission Impossible reruns of all things!

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I often wonder just how many audio recordings were made and just rotted away, or taped over. There's a good chance every soap had fans recording it for years.

Thanks for the tag. 

I also did some audio recordings of my favorite soaps.

Thanks @DRW50!

If videotapes of Secret Storm exist, who would have them ?

I did a quick search and it appears The University Of Indiana has some archived soap episodes of The Secret Storm, As The World Turns, and Guiding Light.

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/secret-storm#:~:text=Secret Storm · CBS Quad Tapes · Indiana University Libraries Moving Image Archive

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/guiding-light

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/as-the-world-turns

Edited August 30, 20241 yr by SoapDope

The description of The Secret Storm episode archived at the University Of Indiana.

Amy Britton and Kevin Kincaid locate the papers of a Revolutionary War family. With the help of a local historian, they discover that their friend Joanna Morrison is a direct descendant of the Revolutionary War family. Joanna then gets upset when people have a higher opinion of her just because she is a descendant.

Edited August 30, 20241 yr by SoapDope

5 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I often wonder just how many audio recordings were made and just rotted away, or taped over. There's a good chance every soap had fans recording it for years.

Thanks for the alert.

I was one of those obsessive soap addicts who used to set up tape recorders in my house to record the audio of soaps which I was not able to watch live, for whatever reason. I reused the same tapes most of the time, but kept copies of special episodes that I knew I'd want to listen to again later (Jennifer Brooks' death episodes from Y&R, the finale of How to Survive a Marriage, the reconciliation episode featuring Steve and Alice from AW in 1973, in which only Courtney and Reinholt appeared, AW's 10th anniversary from 1974, Adam and Nicole's wedding from TEON in 1973...lots of things.)

I just never thought anyone would else would even care about recordings that were not on video.

3 hours ago, SoapDope said:

If videotapes of Secret Storm exist, who would have them ?

I did a quick search and it appears The University Of Indiana has some archived soap episodes of The Secret Storm, As The World Turns, and Guiding Light.

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/secret-storm#:~:text=Secret Storm · CBS Quad Tapes · Indiana University Libraries Moving Image Archive

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/guiding-light

https://collections.libraries.indiana.edu/IULMIA/exhibits/show/cbs-quad-tapes/entertainment-and-documentarie/soap-operas/as-the-world-turns

UCLA also has some as well:

https://search.library.ucla.edu/discovery/search?query=any,contains,"secret storm",AND&tab=FTVA_slot&search_scope=FTVA&vid=01UCS_LAL:UCLA&mode=advanced&offset=0

 

I think I reached out to them about these in 2021 and was told that they did not have the proper technology to scan or play them if I'm remembering correctly. I'd be curious to hear if that's still the case. 

Edited August 30, 20241 yr by skylark

1 hour ago, skylark said:

UCLA also has some as well:

https://search.library.ucla.edu/discovery/search?query=any,contains,"secret storm",AND&tab=FTVA_slot&search_scope=FTVA&vid=01UCS_LAL:UCLA&mode=advanced&offset=0

 

I think I reached out to them about these in 2021 and was told that they did not have the proper technology to scan or play them if I'm remembering correctly. I'd be curious to hear if that's still the case. 

Yes, I saw UCLA had some listed several years ago. It looks like they would send them out to someone (like Obsolete Video Services) to get them digitized.

The ones in Indiana appear to be available to view, but only to authorized people or on site. I wish they would allow streaming to anyone willing to pay a small fee. They have made old commercials available because they claim they have no copyright, but the soap episodes do ?  

Thanks for the tag @DRW50!!! As much as I wish they were video recordings, I do love the fact that they'll be my "podcast" listening in the gym for the next few days!

I have been traveling to various libraries for the last 20+ years researching the papers of various soap writers. Secret Storm has always held the most interest, probably because there's so little to be had.

I've been able to obtain scripts for many years, but the early years of the show seem to be gone forever. I think the most complete year I have is 1966, but I have scattered dates for many other years in the sixties. 

My goal is to write a book detailing as much of the SS story as I can, but I'm wondering if I'm the only person who would be interested in that. As the years go by there's fewer people who remember the show, and by the time I have it ready will anyone care?

1 hour ago, soapfan61 said:

I have been traveling to various libraries for the last 20+ years researching the papers of various soap writers. Secret Storm has always held the most interest, probably because there's so little to be had.

I've been able to obtain scripts for many years, but the early years of the show seem to be gone forever. I think the most complete year I have is 1966, but I have scattered dates for many other years in the sixties. 

My goal is to write a book detailing as much of the SS story as I can, but I'm wondering if I'm the only person who would be interested in that. As the years go by there's fewer people who remember the show, and by the time I have it ready will anyone care?

I would be interested tbh. I would really love to get invested in it.

This show and love of life are the oldies that I’m really interested to hear/learn/read/watch about in any way possible 

9 hours ago, soapfan61 said:

I have been traveling to various libraries for the last 20+ years researching the papers of various soap writers. Secret Storm has always held the most interest, probably because there's so little to be had.

I've been able to obtain scripts for many years, but the early years of the show seem to be gone forever. I think the most complete year I have is 1966, but I have scattered dates for many other years in the sixties. 

My goal is to write a book detailing as much of the SS story as I can, but I'm wondering if I'm the only person who would be interested in that. As the years go by there's fewer people who remember the show, and by the time I have it ready will anyone care?

I think "Secret Storm" is fascinating. I found the document that was posted online many years back now detailing the general outline of the show shortly after the show's cancellation very fascinating. 

The problem of the archiving of soap operas is finding where the material is buried when there hasn't been enough documentation done on the early years of the medium. I imagine some material from those early years exists buried. I suspect some of the actors might have a script or two in their collections. There are also times that people involved in the production have stuff buried away in their collections. Also, I imagine how much has been donated and just not properly catalogued yet. That's my hope for the final years of the radio version of "Road of Life" which is fairly well catalogued until about 1952. 

The Averys work seems so fascinating and the years leading up to that have some interesting characters that I think would like to know more about (Eduardo De Gamma, Kate Lodge Ames, Julian and Evelyn Dark, and Jeff Nichols spring to mind). 

By any chance, were you posting material online for "Storm" in a Facebook group? There was a really fascinating set of story projections regarding Janet Hill and the plans to revamp the show circa 1965 that I found a fun read. If you were, I just want to thank you for sharing. If you aren't, it wouldn't be the first time I made a fool of myself.