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Agree.

Thanks @Khan Dallas had the heart and roots of a western and I think that played a part in it having the biggest male audience of the 1980s big four. Knots Landing brought on Kevin Dobson and William Devane to get the male audience away from Hill Street Blues and it worked. Falcon Crest added elements more suited to Miami Vice because if you can't beat the new hotness might as well join it. Case in point, Apollonia arc was an attempt to get the Miami Vice demographic but that didn't work.

Dallas was a family/business conflict-based show but it had the heart and roots of a western. Dallas was the most male-focused of the 1980s big four primetime soaps. I recognize Dallas place in television history as the most successful primetime soap plus its place in popular culture and the influence it had on the daytime soaps. Knots Landing was community-based show and a spin off done right. Knots Landing carved it's own identity apart from it's parent show Dallas. Even with the crossovers, Knots Landing never felt like a second hour of Dallas in a different setting. Falcon Crest had all the ingredients to be a great show but the execution squandered the potential. I recognize Dynasty place in television history and popular culture plus the influence it had on the rest of the primetime soaps and on the daytime soaps but on the whole I didn't like it very much. Aaron Spelling entire goal was to be bigger and better than Dallas and that goal was reached at the expense of storytelling logic and acting ability. Putting the CBS primetime soaps in CBS daytime terms, Dallas and Falcon Crest were family/business conflict-based more like the Bell shows and Knots Landing was community-based more like the P&G shows. Let's not forget that 1985/86 Angela Lansbury knocked big bad Larry Hagman off the throne at CBS. She will forever be savage for that.

You're welcome. So much hype with those finale promos but it was a disappointment.

Also Emma and Lauren never met. In a way Lauren replaced both Maggie and Emma.

The final four episodes felt like they were rewritten to wrap up the storylines. Remember too there was a five week break between the last Friday episode and the first Thursday episode.

1993/94 peak 90210 and Melrose took off. 1994/95 the first post-Brenda season and peak Melrose. That may have been a factor.

Probably not so good. 90210 first season was Thursday 9 pm, head-to-head with #1 Cheers. Those are my memories too. Peak 90210 for me was Summer 1991 until Shannen Doherty departure in Spring 1994.

That I don't know but I would not be shocked at all if it were true.

Kobe/Long introduced characters and storylines that would carry GL through the final 25 years and got the ratings up from the post-Marland slump, but it was too much chasing 1980s trends which wasn't sustainable and caused long-term damage.

@soapfan770 Thanks for sharing. I totally LOL.

35 years ago tonight was the series finale. DALLAS - Final Episode Promo (Spring 1991) DALLAS: Season 14 (1990-91) Promo (The Final Episode) Dallas Finale Promo (4-26-1991)

At this point it seems CBS/Sony care more about ratings and staying within budget than the quality of the writing. I'll keep saying this until it happens. Josh Griffith needs to go.

Yeah, she's had issues going back to Days.

Whom on GL didn't have beef with GA, and did he have issues at Capitol and/or All My Children?

Hahaha. For sure. Jane Wyman was not looking healthy during the final two seasons but I think budget mode also played a part in her episodes being cut in the final season. We know Jane Wyman acted only once after Falcon Crest and that was her 1993 guest appearance on Dr. Quinn but she lived until 2007.

How many addiction storylines has Y&R had? From what I recall: Katherine - alcohol Traci - diet pills Brent Davis - alcohol Phillip III - alcohol Nikki - alcohol and painkillers Billy - alcohol and gambling Neil - alcohol Daniel - porn Jack - painkillers Nick - painkillers I think Nick Reed was introduced as an alcoholic. I can't remember if the initial Victor back story mentioned Albert Miller being an alcoholic or if that was something added later.

I wonder if Christopher Pennock being cast was due to his popularity on Dark Shadows. Between Dark Shadows and GL he had a short arc on Y&R.

Nia Long filmed Boyz n the Hood before she was cast on GL. During GL she guest starred on Fresh Prince and Living Single and filmed Made in America. Her first role after GL was one season and done character Lisa Wilkes on Fresh Prince.

For whatever reason Bill Bell put teenage Victoria in the orbit of college-aged adults instead of building a teen group around her like he did with teenage Nick.

1995, 1996 there was also some flirtation between Victoria and Brad but thankfully that went nowhere.

Same here, and then the Y&R crossover.

Thanks for the info.

Miami. I've been out of the Housewives loop so I don't know if/when a new season of Miami is happening.

Here's hoping for no cheap sweeps stunts and less garbage time.