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The real Genoa City, Wisconsin is just over the Illinois state line. When the Bells were based in Chicago they had a vacation home in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. I think the Y&R 25th anniversary book made mention that the Bells took Genoa City as the setting for Y&R as they passed through the town on their way from Chicago to Lake Geneva.

@Khan Great to see you posting in the BtG thread. How are you finding BtG so far?

Crimson Lights is 31 years old and the age is showing. I believe it's the oldest set currently in use.

Honestly, no. Josh Griffith needs to go. Bradley did not inherit his father's talent.

@vetsoapfan @j swift Thank you for the answers. Totally agree. All soap writers need to note this.

I was like, "you tell her Andre". I somehow remember Shanice checking for Andre, and she was a little thirsty for him too.

@vetsoapfan How would you rank these vixens: Lisa Miller the OG vixen, Agnes Nixon creations Rachel Davis and Erica Kane, Bill Bell creations Jill Foster and Brooke Logan.

Annie big moments in her last year were breakdown on the witness stand, overdose, and the exit story from the wedding arrest to her jumping off the plane. Good thing I didn't watch any episodes/clips after Annie exit.

Flaws and all, BtG is still more enjoyable than the hot garbage that's Y&R.

I never thought of the Columbia Pictures angle. Bill Bell's writing kept the action/adventure elements from venturing too deep into General Hospital and Days territory.

@Taoboi I know I'm not the only person who thinks that.

@Broderick Also during H. Wesley Kenney's run as EP, Y&R got more action/adventure elements in the storylines. Although Y&R's action/adventure elements were tame compared to General Hospital and Days in that same time, I don't really feel they suited Y&R. I wonder if adding action/adventure was Bill Bell's own choice or it was CBS mandated to compete with General Hospital and Days. Notice that when Ed Scott takes over, all the action/adventure elements are gone and Y&R becomes more corporate. There are some H. Wesley Kenney interviews floating around where he said he left Y&R for General Hospital because of the money General Hospital offered him and that his time on Y&R were the best years of his professional life. H. Wesley Kenney laid the groundwork for Y&R as we know it today, but Ed Scott ended up getting all the credit for Y&R becoming #1.

Agree. Vanessa is a nasty ho. She makes Brooke Logan look angelic.

I don't think Victor interacted with Cricket when she was a Jabot model. IIRC Victor first interacted with lawyer Christine in 1995 during Nick's trial.

I've pointed this out before but I think Pamela Long diminished Vanessa in favor of her creations Reva and Alexandra. It's quite telling that Maeve Kinkead made no reference to Pamela Long in her Emmy speech.

40 years ago

40 years ago

40 years ago tonight (I couldn't find an ABC promo)

@BoldRestless Do not give Josh Griffith ideas.

Doug's not dead. It's a set up to flush out Joey. Hahaha, dead. That's just as good as when Dani described Ashley as "she makes vanilla look spicy".

Y&R was in their post-expansion slump from February 1980 to May 1982 and this was reflected in the ratings. The cast changes plus the 1981 writers strike didn't help matters either. June 1982 Y&R rebounded and 1983 Y&R blew up. 1984 is the year Y&R became Y&R as we know it. Y&R's golden era was 1984 through first half of 1986, and H. Wesley Kenney played just as big a part of that as Bill Bell did.

October 1985-January 1986 Sunday 9 pm NBC and ABC had some big miniseries/movies, specials, and sports. NBC had The Long Hot Summer, I Dream of Jeannie: 15 Years Later, Crime of Innocence, 48 Hrs network premiere, Perry Mason Returns, Bob Hope Christmas Show, Blacke's Magic pilot movie. ABC had Toughlove, World Series, North & South, American Bandstand 33 1/3 Celebration, The Toy network premiere. No wonder CBS launched Sunday movie in January 1986 and as we all know that move paid off. Crazy Like a Fox got sent to Wednesday 9 pm head-to-head with Dynasty. That move wasn't tank job or sabotage, it was more to fill space on the schedule from new Wednesday shows Stir Crazy and George Burns Comedy Week being one season and done early in the season. I think a better home for Crazy Like a Fox might have been Friday 8 pm. Twilight Zone didn't work Friday 8 pm but Crazy Like a Fox could've worked as a Dallas lead in.

John Conboy built the foundation but H. Wesley Kenney laid the groundwork for Y&R as we know it today.

@alwaysAMC You're getting close to Annie exit. I didn't watch any clips/episodes past that. @GL Oldtimer Any 1979 and 1980 episodes featuring Roger/Holly that surface are such a treat because those episodes set in motion everything we saw a decade later in the Calhoun era.

1986/87 Dynasty went off the rails and it remained so for the rest of its run.