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I assume that’s what will happen. That’s what happened when Passions launched. CTV aired Another World, it picked up Passions when AW ended in June. Aired Passions for a season and half, its ratings were dismal compared to AW which had a HUGE following in Canada, it switched to Global and stayed there till it was cancelled.

It would definitely be interesting to know what dates are lost. I feel like we’ve seen a few flashbacks on the show from that era over the years. I would assume September 1966-September 1967, as September is the official start of a television season. Or is it all of 1966 or 1967? I feel like they’ve used flashbacks from 1966 before and if I am not mistaken they’ve also shown a clip from Mickey and Laura’s wedding at the end of 1967. @JAS0N47 would you have an info on this?

I've been thinking about this lately, with all the advancements in AI and with all the advancements that are sure to come in the future, will we perhaps see recreations of older soaps from existing scripts? So many scripts are archived throughout America. Irna Philips, The Bells, Agnes Nixon, and a few others were kind enough to donate collections of their work which covers a great deal of work from the 50s through the 70s. Will fans take advantage of this to recreate things when the technology is available?

More of lost episodes of The Doctors (1980-1982) and the early years that apparently were in the archives (63-67). More Days episodes from the 65-82 period of the show. Anything from 66-69 for sure. I’d love to see more from the Salam Strangler, other than the edits that have been out there for years. I’d love to see Mary’s death. I know those episodes were on WOST many years ago. I think that was one of Days first BIG location shoots. Anything Pre 1978 for General Hospital. I am really fascinated by the 1975-1977 period of the show. The 1977 edits on YouTube were a great watch. Anything from Bright Promise, Return to Peyton Place, How to Survive a Marriage and Somerset. Pre 1979 Edge of Night. The early Slesar years sound so amazing. 1968-1972 would be incredible finds. Early Another World. 1970s especially. Iris/Mac/Rachel, Steve and Alice, Crazy Olive.

Question @JAS0N47, not sure if you can answer it. There was just 10 credited writers on Fridays episode, has that happened in the last few decades? I feel like since the mid-nineties there has always been 12 or more writers on the team.

Yeah, was that for profit though? Wasn’t it just promotional? Ryan’s aired on soap net. SFT and Edge aired on the USA network. Texas reaired briefly to, on TBS paired with The Caitlin’s.

Yeah, they had mentioned they had a broken amount of episodes from the 63-67 period. They aired the first episode and another random episode from the shows first month. You think they would have put everything up. Even if episodes are missing. Soap fans of that period are use to not having complete runs. In regards to my point about the 80-82 episodes, I also wonder if it’s a residual issue that could be keeping them from wanting to air those episodes. I believe it was around that time when writers and actors worked larger residuals into their contracts. Ryan’s Hope/SFT/Edge are the only soaps that have reaired regular episodes from that period before.

I was wondering the other day if somewhere out in the world the 1980-1982 run existed. There have been around a dozen or so episodes that popped up over the years online from that era including the final episode of the series. I know apparently NBC didn't save those tapes, which really confuses me, because I believe the show did air in some international markets at some point. VCR's were also more available at this point, maybe more fans have episodes in their personal collections. I just find it hard to believe all those episodes are gone, when soap producers/networks were saving episodes for all soaps by this point, no matter how popular or unpopular they were. Could it be possible they didn't approach NBC at all?

It's so crazy looking back at how chaotic that time was. 18 characters pretty much disappearing, most never to be seen or heard of again. Recasting David, Mary and Mike. 9 new arrivals, majority of them written out before their first year was up. It's horrifying to think Fred Silverman planned to expand Days to 90 minutes after AW. I can't even imagine the damage that would of done. Days wouldn't of recovered, and probably would of been cancelled before AW. Even through all that mess Days was the top rated show on NBCD, overtaking self-destructing AW during this period. Thank god Days had Deidre Hall and the Hayes. They really carried that show and gave the audience something familiar to tune into. Something that can be said about the current state of the show too. Maybe its time for another Valentine's Day massacre???

I don’t think NBC ever would on broadcast television. Their affiliates are so fickle and that news show that replaced Days does well enough and costs nothing to make. Maybe on Peacock, if they could produce it as cheap as they do Days. ABC possibly would, or perhaps they would revive one of their cancelled shows. I really believe the soap opera formate of 5 shows a week could be so beneficial to these streamers. It’s obviously helping Peacock having Days in terms of consistent viewers. Having new and interesting content everyday on platforms that often can go weeks without putting out something that hits with viewers could only help make these companies money. Imagine if Netflix produced a few less episodes of their big name shows, put that money into producing a 5 day a week soap with the same talent they have in there other productions. I think audience reaction would be very surprising for them.

Corrine Conley, who played Phyllis Anderson in the 70s and 80s was on the Today Show briefly today to celebrate the anniversary of ''Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer''. She looks great at 95. Would love for someone to interview her about any Days memories she has.

Bill Bell once said he felt his killing Dickie Martin on Days wasn't a very good story decision, mostly because of audience reaction. He wrote Susan giving birth to Dickie prematurely, spending weeks in the hospital as they both fought for their lives. Letters poured in from viewers wanting the baby to survive he said. He wrote Susan deciding she was going to raise her son after they got better, she bonded with him, then he died in a freak accident a few months later. While this led to the legendary story of Susan killing David Martin and her feud with Julie, which carried years of story, I can see his point. It must have been traumatising for viewers to feel relief that Dickie survived his birth only to die a few months later.

I totally agree, they most likely wrote the strike. Corday has a history of hiring fi-core writers after writers strikes are done as well (re: Higley 08). Honestly I was watching more frequently during the strike, it was more the type of show I want to see overall with more focus on family and character. It wasn't the most exciting stories, but I think some of that had to do with the BTS going on with the firing of the EP and scripts being written so far in advance. I am really curious to see how the overall writing team looks. I was sad Chris Dunn left for BTG, as I feel his long history writing soaps and Days would have benefited the new team. I also feel like any Carlivati additions will probably be gone, I suspect Sonia Alarr will be disappearing anytime now. Jamey Giddens still seems to be there, Ryan Quan is probably there to. With the pool of former daytime writers a lot smaller then it was a decade ago, hopefully they will bring in some new blood. Freshness is needed at this point.

This all looks really good. I assume the person with Julie is either Spencer Olsen (Steven’s son) or a relative of Dougie LeClair. Either is good to me! These returns don’t line up with the next few months airdates. Alison Sweeney was filming in August, that’s like April/May airdates. Wasn’t the other returns announced after? Probably May? Very confused seeing this. I feel like they definitely are previewing spring with some of this. Obviously that Hope scene at the end with Julie is from then….cause PR didn’t return for Doug’s Memorial episodes. And, if they are previewing spring, that must mean winter is gonna be boring as hell.

Totally shocked and devastated. RIP Drake

Stephanie's murder was always something I wanted to see. I was disappointed when P&G shut down their classic soap channel before we got to the final year of SFT. Much like The Doctors, I was eager to see how the show fared at the end. No way MC's Stephanie would of just stood there, she would of battled back and probably strangled Rivera with that locket lol Killing Stephanie and having Wendy disappear was defiantly a choice. I get the show was grasping at straws, and serial killers were kinda the in thing on NBCD with Days and SB both having their own first, but I feel this could of been better. It is interesting to see what Gary Tomlin did though, he wrote the beginnings of the Salem Strangler on Days and Pat Falken Smith of course continued it and made it legendary, but I always wondered what his plan was there.

The copyright crackdowns were so common in the early and mid 2010s with Days and Y&R content. There were many channels on YouTube that posted content then, now there is such a small amount that posts anything classic or current. There is a social media channel called "Liquid Soap" that was regularly posting clips from Days and Y&R. I think it's run by someone at Sony, but has gone pretty much dormant. I remember when it started wondering if this was Sony's way of measuring how much of an interest there is in past soap content. We of course got the Pluto soap channel not long after, but those episodes are anything but classic, showing content from the last 7 or so years. Honestly, I don't think we'll see any classic episodes of Days (or Y&R for that matter) until the show is cancelled. I think Sony is the real blocker here. When Ken Corday sued Sony a few years ago and was asking for their binding contract to be terminated, he stated that Sony had pretty much no interest in Days anymore. It had gotten to the point where he was personally trying to sell the show overseas (which was legally wrong of him and Sony made that clear). That lawsuit was so interesting to me, and I still wish Corday had been allowed to move on without Sony's involvement. Say whatever you want about KC (and there is a lot that can be said about his mismanagement) he loves the show, and I think he would be more receptive to fan requests for classic content. Sony is just in it for the pay check, without putting any effort into the show. I assume Corday can't feel the same way, mostly because his profit must be so minimal compared to the old days lol

I’ve never been sure if the people who work on these shows read message boards like this, but in case they do, and since the new writers are currently in the infancy of their run at Days (They’ll be 9 months ahead by the time we get to see their material!), what would we like to see from them? Realistically, we can’t ask for shorter film to air dates, and for them to do things outside their budget, that keeps the show running, but I would love to see certain stories. More Hortons and less DiMera’s. The previous regime has ruined the DiMera’s for me. Stefano is dead. Rest them all and the predictable and boring stories that go along with them. Bring on the next generation of Hortons. There are literally so many options. Claire, Will, Nathan, Jeremy, Eli, Ciara (without Ben please) could all return with their families. Scotty, Sandy and Steven could all have children and grandchildren who make their way to Salem. Make the Hortons the center of the show, not the DiMera’s. Make death a permanent thing in Salem. Back from the dead is such a lazy plot point. It’s more interesting for characters to be alive when they leave a show, then to let everyone false grieve and bring them back months later with little to no regard to what they were doing before their “death”. Again, Stefano is dead, let back from the dead’s be as well. With that being said, before we make death permanent, please bring back Laura and Abigail. Both of these characters had horrible and unnecessary endings. They are to important to the history of the show to go out like they did. Fix it. Please fix other mistakes like Bo and Hope’s and Belle and Shawn’s current states. Have Marlena be in stories with her family, and not in stories with pointless characters like Everett and Leo. Write the show with a more serious and realistic tone. Soap operas are campy and unserious at times yes, but by writing the cheap JER rip offs that the previous regime did makes it painfully obvious, especially when you don’t have the budget to produce it. Look to the 60s and 70s for ideas. Days told melodramatic and riveting stories with a smaller budget than they had in the 80s and 90s and had a much larger audience because of it.

THANK YOU SOAP JESUS! I honestly never thought this day would ever come. I am very pleased they promoted two writers (female at that!!!) who have history with the show. 30 plus years for Ford. I think that will be an asset for sure. I do wonder if they were responsible for the strike stuff. Which could be worrying, but on the other hand we know at least the first half of that was the influence of the fired guy, and I feel like whoever was writing the rest was being told to drag stuff out as long as they could, hence why nothing happened for months. Honestly, I don't care. I literally would take my cat head writing over what we have had to sit through the last 4 years. Just an empty parody of the show IMO. I know this was mentioned, but I really wonder if Sony asked Corday to release Carlivati for Y&R, with Jamey Giddens co-head writing? I really thought Carlivati would be writing the end of Days at some point....something definitely happened here. And, just for my own sanity, I am so glad he will not break the head writing record held by Bill Bell. That honestly would been a kick in the teeth for fans and Bell's memory.

Way to go Days! I always had faith the show could do well on streaming, especially during the slow time for streamers releasing new content. Now, not to sound like a broken record but imagine if they had better writing! This possibly could be a regular thing.

Omg this 100%! His whole family has been a one dud after another. Gabi definitely had more memorable moments and has been a more appealing character, but it was unnecessary to introduce that whole family. Rafe really should have left after he broke up with Sami. That was the end of his usefulness, I liked him with Jordan briefly, but that ended quickly. I remember when GG left a few years ago and it sounded like it was going to be permanent, I was thrilled. Obviously that didn’t last lol Just kill him off already!

I agree 100%. I can’t really speak to the AMC and OLTL revivals, but as much as some Days fans saw the move to peacock as a negative one, it really was a new lease on life. It proved that NBCU had faith in the Days brand. Had the producers seen this as a fresh start and really put in the effort to give a quality product, I think we could see MANY more years of Days, unfortunately I feel they are running on autopilot and blowing it. That has to do with Corday I think. He obviously is older and has no interest in being there. It’s a shame he didn’t follow in his mother’s footsteps and mentor one of his children to take his place at the show. But that may have been intentional, I feel he always kind of resented being in that role, maybe he didn’t want his children to have the same resentments.

I personally feel the same way. I never stopped during all 3 of Higley’s tenures, except when she was paired with Griffith, but I think he had majority influence there, cause the show got super dark and was moving way to fast for my liking. Carlivati of course has written the show for 7 years, which is insane to write because he is now approaching Bill Bell and JER level seniority. The fact he will probably head write this show longer than Bell, arguable the best HW Days has ever had, doesn't sit well with me. Higley wrote for 6 combined years, so we had breaks from her horribleness. No breaks from Ron, minus the strike, which obviously we all know what was happening there. I think my major problem with Ron is minus his “good ideas” he doesn’t understand how to write the show. Days, even under JER was more than just “camp”. There was an understanding of values and history. The Hortons and Brady’s were good and the moral compasses of the show. The Dimera’s were bad, and caused conflict . Everyone under Ron for lack of a better term is “grey”. Except grey characters are usually well written and have a believable motivation. You just feel at this point any character could say brainwash, rape or murder someone, and it all would be excused and forgotten about 6 months later. Unless you’re a POC that is 🙄 I remember on more the one occasion, Carlivati mentioning how fans said he would always be a good fit for the show years before he started writing. I really think that inflated his ego and caused him to only look at things broadly. His basic understanding of the show is devil possession and face swapping. The show is more than that. Even during its worst times, it respected its history. Killing core characters such as Laura or Abby, to literally give stories to characters, who if they were to die tomorrow and not one fan would ever wish for their return ie Gwen and Clyde is wrong and damaging IMO. That would have probably had a writer fired in the past. Of course with his use of back from the dead, you can say it doesn’t matter, but that issue is another topic on its own. I just feel he is warn out and at this point unable to write entertaining long term stories. Sadly, we seem stuck with him. I can’t see any situation where he is fired. The checks and balances seem to be gone with Corday away golfing with the former EP predator and Days streaming on peacock now.

I have been thinking about this lately. Who do you all think has been worse for the show, and is worse at doing the job? I think a large portion of fans, especially those watching in the last 20 years would probably say Higley is the worst. She seemed to have no idea how to structure a story. How to create compelling characters. Lots of ideas, but no substance. She did seem to improve slightly when she had a co-head writer, but they were never enough to elevate her stories. Carlivati has so many of the same traits. But to me seems to be worse. I am not sure if it’s the way the show is produced now, or if it’s just the way he writes (I never regularly watched GH or OLTL so I can’t speak to his history), but he’s so repetitive and predictable. Again, good ideas at times, but no idea on how to carry through with them. Both were breakdown writers before they took their jobs. They both had histories with their original shows. Both worked under strong head writers, that just doesn’t seem to help translate to good storytellers. What do you all think?

Ohhhhhhh that’s where Ron gets his lines for Leo.