No wonder Isabella never returned. Did Victor & Isabella ever interact?

2 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

She does sound dismissive. She starts out cackling that they shouldn't show a clip (admittedly a dumb storyline) then talking about how she was making more money doing whatever remote job she had out of college which is kind of implying that career soap actors are losers. All they said is you started on a soap and the only thing she could think to say is she had another job and was so embarrassed they would find out she was a dumb soap actress. His reaction is vintage EB but his interpretation of this as denigrating the genre is spot on IMO.

I don't agree.  I think that, when she was a young woman, she was simply trying to make money at her day job and was worried that her clients would diss her for being a soap actress.  She wasn't dissing soaps.  She was talking about how *other* people diss soaps.  She needed to pay bills, so she needed to keep her day job.

Also, she was invited on the show to talk about Latino voters.  She wasn't expecting to be shown a soap clip, and I think it threw her off for a minute.  This wasn't an interview about the entertainment business.  This was supposed to be a serious political interview.

Edited March 20, 20232 yr by janea4old

2 hours ago, Vee said:

John, just take the L.

+1

Team Eva on this one.

Firstly springing the soap clip . Intentionally choosing a scene to underline the narrative that soaps are ridiculous. It hardly showed Eva at all -there would have been plenty of scenes that would have shown her in a better light.

So she had aright to be embarassed. Then the story about having another job made sense to me. In fact maybe newbie soap actors should take a leaf and have other stuff on the go to ensure some financial security. I don't think she was putting the show down, just acknowledging it was better to keep things separate.

Eric needs to put a pin in it. Considering that for the past few years he has been mumbling and stumbling ,reading his lines off menus, phones etc. He's damn lucky to still be a working actor. I'm sure that as a younger actor he would have called out such an older actor reading lines that way. He totally overreacted to what she said.

Didn't he go off a few years back at some actor from 'How I Met Your Mother"?

And I don't recall Robert de Niro starting on soaps...

I never thought Eva was a particularly good or appealing performer, on Y&R or on the wildly overrated Desperate Housewives, but I don't understand why Eric Braeden is spending his time on Twitter dragging her. Aren't these his golden years?

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

I don't agree.  I think that, when she was a young woman, she was simply trying to make money at her day job and was worried that her clients would diss her for being a soap actress.  She wasn't dissing soaps.  She was talking about how *other* people diss soaps.  She needed to pay bills, so she needed to keep her day job.

Also, she was invited on the show to talk about Latino voters.  She wasn't expecting to be shown a soap clip, and I think it threw her off for a minute.  This wasn't an interview about the entertainment business.  This was supposed to be a serious political interview.

Thank you!

Yeah, no, Eva actually didn't say anything bad about soaps or soap performers - all she said was that people have a bad perception of actresses as being "dumb" (unfortunately true) and revealed that she didn't want to put all eggs in one basket early on in her acting career, especially as her career headhunter earnt her more money. 

And I totally get it. Acting rarely pans out for people and if you do a double-hustle you don't want either party to think you're not taking it seriously.

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10 hours ago, John said:

Eva I believe just wanted to keep the headhunter job and was afraid what clients would feel if they knew she was acting too. HOWEVER she was at Y&R and I could why some like EB could see that as degrading the show I feel he went overboard attacking her acting Although she seemed embarrassed that they showed a Y&R Clip

 

Eric went way too hard in his comments and needs to calm down. Eva is a decent actress and her Isabella role was a highlight of the early 2000s.

I recently saw a CBS Sunday Morning profile on Eva Longoria with no mention of her time on Y&R despite it being a CBS show. Eva has always struck me as someone embarrased by her time on soaps (ironic because a nightime comedy/drama soap made her a household name). That in contrast to Kelly Ripa , Judith Light or Julianne Moore.  Cant find the clip but Eva seemed coy and embarrased when the bathtub/knife scene with Christine was played on the Late Show w. David Letterman.

I would understand earlier in her career if she embelleshed her daytime roots because of showbusiness bias. Now now that she's established I wished she'd embrace her Isabella role more. 

Soaps do get an unfair rep. Crappy primetime shows, scenes, or actors dont drag down the entire medium. Soaps on the other hand get disparaged as a whole based on a few examples. (Today's quality however doesn't help this perception at all).

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His reaction is ridiculous.  I’m not even a fan of hers, and I see nothing wrong with those statements.  She kept a job for income reasons.  If anything this shows how smart she was at her age at the time- to not just assume she made it and give up her higher paying job.

To me that interview was all about her, not denigrating the show.  Also many actors do not want watch their early work.

His comments are beyond over the top, they are out of line.

I actually think Eva developed quite a bit as a comedic actress by the time DH ended. Gabrielle was the only part of the show worth watching in the later seasons.

EB is the proverbial old man screaming at clouds.

8 hours ago, janea4old said:

I don't agree.  I think that, when she was a young woman, she was simply trying to make money at her day job and was worried that her clients would diss her for being a soap actress.  She wasn't dissing soaps.  She was talking about how *other* people diss soaps.  She needed to pay bills, so she needed to keep her day job.

Also, she was invited on the show to talk about Latino voters.  She wasn't expecting to be shown a soap clip, and I think it threw her off for a minute.  This wasn't an interview about the entertainment business.  This was supposed to be a serious political interview.

Thank you for explaining the additional context. That does help explain her immediate reaction to the clip.

 

53 minutes ago, ironlion said:

 Cant find the clip but Eva seemed coy and embarrased when the bathtub/knife scene with Christine was played on the Late Show w. David Letterman.

I remember that. I mentioned it in the other thread. She was making fun of how the scene was directed.

Lord, not "Victor Newman" trending at 6 AM again but for the wrong reasons.

EB overreacted. I get the context of her reaction to seeing an old clip and her explanation. 

My takeaway from that interview are 1) how messed up that a contract role on a daytime soap in the early 2000s still wasn't enough to cover her bills, what the hell does daytime pay new performers now? 2) Eva's surprise that they found the clip was weird, it's not like it was from the 70s, it was 20 years ago 3) fun fact from my days of being a Desperate Housewives' superfan: Eva's degree is in kinesiology.

Eric Braeden needs a handler.

lol!