16 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

The Jill-Billy relationship is one of the criminally underwritten relationships on the show of the past twenty years.
Even the weird things the writers once did - like writing a strong bond between her and Cane while we used to never see her with her actual kid - could have been mined for great material for years.
How much of how Billy is today down to his mother's inattention? So much stuff there. 
Like so much of YR you can see the gold under the dirt but nothing is picking up tools to mine it.

Oh god yes. I completely agree. For a show that loves “digging” into Billy’s psyche, it’s a huge missing puzzle piece.

In case anyone missed it like me!😂

 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

In case anyone missed it like me!😂

 

Just watched it. He’s SO engaging, intelligent, and articulate. And gorgeous—much more than on the show. It’s insane than he’s 63. He looks younger than his onscreen younger brother.

Alan, of course, steps on a few of his *great* stories, but CLB does a better job at navigating Alan than most. I’m actually going to get tickets to see CLB in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof here in NYC next month. (He’s playing Big Daddy off-Broadway.)

ATWT fans will get a kick out of a lot of his anecdotes regarding Marisa Tomei, Meg Ryan, Eileen Fulton, Betty Rea, and others.

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Faulkner

8 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Just watched it. He’s SO engaging, intelligent, and articulate. And gorgeous—much more than on the show. It’s insane than he’s 63. He looks younger than his onscreen younger brother.

Alan, of course, steps on a few of his *great* stories, but CLB does a better job at navigating Alan than most. I’m actually going to get tickets to see CLB in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof here in NYC next month. (He’s playing Big Daddy off-Broadway.)

ATWT fans will get a kick out of a lot of his anecdotes regarding Marisa Tomei, Meg Ryan, Eileen Fulton, Betty Rea, and others.

I just starts watching it and Alan is already using his interjections.

I hope he talks about his time on ATWT but I doubt it.

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Soapsuds

9 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I hope he talks about his time on ATWT but I doubt it.

He does.

4 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

He does.

Oh good!😊

Chance so far is not making much of an impression. But MO is hardly the pro to help him lift his game.

He does look younger than her.

Thank the Lord Jill is back. Jess needs to stay around and become an active part of the show. She can elevate the crummiest of stories.

47 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Chance so far is not making much of an impression. But MO is hardly the pro to help him lift his game.

He does look younger than her.

Thank the Lord Jill is back. Jess needs to stay around and become an active part of the show. She can elevate the crummiest of stories.

nuChance is still a great improvement over the last one, and I actually think he and MO are a good fit. Still, shouldn’t they have been hungry for some alone time over those days?

Jess Walton is always welcome, but I wish they hadn’t AGAIN gone to the “Billy is a screw up” storyline. Haven’t we seen that a dozen times from Jill? Why not have her get angry with Victor and vow vengeance for him going after her son?

I realize it’s a problem that Jess isn’t working much, but I hate the repetition. Christel Khalil was outright LAUGHING during her dialogue about Lily takin* over and Billy working for her.

WTH is going on with lighting/hair/makeup/clothing?

Nikki in a bold stripe blouse with a snakeskin belt? In what fashion universe does that worK?

Jack suddenly looks years older-his skin looks way more blotchy. Nikki has prominent eye bags.

Phyllis cleavage was spotty.

If you're over 40 on this show, don't expect any help from the production team.

15 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

nuChance is still a great improvement over the last one, and I actually think he and MO are a good fit. Still, shouldn’t they have been hungry for some alone time over those days?

Jess Walton is always welcome, but I wish they hadn’t AGAIN gone to the “Billy is a screw up” storyline. Haven’t we seen that a dozen times from Jill? Why not have her get angry with Victor and vow vengeance for him going after her son?

I realize it’s a problem that Jess isn’t working much, but I hate the repetition. Christel Khalil was outright LAUGHING during her dialogue about Lily takin* over and Billy working for her.

Agreed.....Y&R needs to get a new head writer and probably an executive producer too. That first, then if MO doesn't improve replace with a younger actress.  Y&R definitely needs to get Jess Walton back on contract, with her husband passing earlier this year, she may be more willing to do so.

16 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

WTH is going on with lighting/hair/makeup/clothing?

Nikki in a bold stripe blouse with a snakeskin belt? In what fashion universe does that worK?

Jack suddenly looks years older-his skin looks way more blotchy. Nikki has prominent eye bags.

Phyllis cleavage was spotty.

If you're over 40 on this show, don't expect any help from the production team.

Haha  the show looks very cheap. It's a shame because it was the best during its heyday. 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Haha  the show looks very cheap. It's a shame because it was the best during its heyday. 

Budget mode has set in sadly.

I'm underwhelmed by nununununuChance. But it's early on.

I'm one of those young viewers and I'd rather see Jill than 97% of the rest of the them. Jess is still top notch and I say that having just watched the day ahead.

The show is better than when I first came back to it but still a fixer upper.

Rinse. Leather. Repeat. Billy is impulsive. Billy is a screw up. I will always feel Billy was miscast but it would be great to see Billy best The Mustache, Adam, Ashland and Victoria.

Great news and not really a spoiler but....

Spoiler

We finally saw a LIVE baby today. No smothered stiff doll baby.

 

The worst offenders in terms of clothing are Nikki,Lauren, Abby, Sally and sometimes Sharon. and Phyllis.

Lots of overly tight, cheap looking fabrics, unflattering colors, metallics.

So it is a style choice for these characters. as Amanda and Lily usually look decent in more subdued and elegant looks - but no-one is immune.

Is it just me or does anyone think those characters present well?

Obviously the clothing budget has been cut and they are using cheaper items but just like in real life a clever eye can elevate the look. 

Are the men wearing their own clothes? Nick, Devon, Ray are dressed basically. Devon should be in hip casual/streetwear  but its just chain store looking Tees and jeans.

Adam looks awful in the baggy black outfits. Only Nate and ashland present well.

The hair and makeup is off. Is this COVID related? Are they spending minimum time interacting with hair/makeup, if at all?

As for the lighting, again maybe the budget means less time is allowed to adjust the lighting and they are employing fewer people ?

There has to be some reason for the tatty looking show.

 

Edited December 3, 20214 yr by Paul Raven

Does Jill still own 25% of Jabot?

I haven't kept up in a while and I just saw a tweet that Jill offered a position to Billy at Chancellor which made me question what gave Jill the authority to offer a position within that company? 

Did she gain Chancellor stock when she thought she was Kay's daughter and just never gave it back, or is she the proxy for her son Phillip's stock?  I would hope that they didn't write in that she owns part of Fenmore's because Neil died before Jill found out they were related and Lauren was his sole heir (which doesn't suddenly change when a bastard child is found).