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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I love short term returns...As much as I love Nola, I think her second stint should have been short term...it actually was a good time to bring her back with her old nemesis hooking up with her nephew...instead of the sad sack rejected Nola...she would be a novelist going on a book tour who drops into town to remind everyone that Van was not always a saint...("Vanessa, did you pull that fur coat trick on Matt..yes, thats right Matt, Vanessa used to come naked in a fur coat to have sex with your uncle Tony..oh, and she also slept with your uncle Ed, which I have to admit, must have been when Ed had some life in him.") cause trouble with Dinah and Van (as in, maybe Dinah had spent time with Nola in those years she was off the show, and Van is a bit jealous) poke stick in his ass Ed trying to mother Michelle "Oh Michelle, listen to your Auntie Nola...your father is a bit of a stick in the mud, you need to have some fun." And maybe threaten Lillian, "Listen b*tch I know what happened and you better hope I don't put your sordid past in my next book" etc and then leave town. You don't have to invent some affair for Quint or bring him back to try to beat the Quola dead horse..they are happy together, they just dont have their heads up each others butts. Jenna should have returned second time to usher Buzz off canvas, and Edmund and Richard were supposed to be short term but they were supposedly SO popular....
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GL should have learned from Philliip writes a novel and visualizes his characters failed storyline...though this was the perfect storyline for Nola. Who is the blond at Company who has the greatest mores realistic reaction to Reva..."Oh God," and tries to put her head down. Reva was most fun when people openly were annoyed with her. Toothy blond Bill, who looks nothing like his TV parents.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Claire was around right before PS came back. Its really odd, they had the Meta/Claire lighthouse storyline (loved the Meta/Claire dynamic...Meta giving her a kick in the ass and Claire the only person in town who doesnt treat Meta like a beloved aunt..more like an annoying aunt you cant get rid of.) MS got sick so I understand they had to dump the planned storyline of the grand reopening of the lighthouse for (and substitute Jeva's sixth millionth wedding? Someone really thought they were quite the ratings draw) but PS came back and Claire just..disappeared. Another missed opp. Claire with Ed's old enemy, and also with Rick and his heart issue, having Claire involved...(and Pratt made such a great pain in the ass.) I also liked that Alan and Claire were just screwing and not making anything more of it. I too liked PS much better on his return then during his post Mo death period. Simon played a great, wounded troubled guy trying to do right. Taggert used him really well, as kind of a Judge Lowell character that people bounded issues off of and he came off so much stronger...and really showed that GL needed quiet characters like Ed and quiet actors like PS to ground the show. It was never shown better then Ed's scene with Reva with KZ trying her tricks on upstaging and PS having none of it and it was a really good scene, KZ had to take it down to meet Simon as Reva would have to with Ed and it also showed that KZ was great with relationship scenes of family and friends instead of the OTT things Rauch contantly put her in.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
They had a good scene on a Christmas Eve episode, Alex has a glam party and everyone is there dressed to the nines...(and its MKA's last episode during her short stint, who oddly says she is just taking a trip and will be back) and then another scnene and its Alex by herself kind of picking up after the party (I can see a control freak like her not waiting for the help) and Roger, knowing full well that she is alone comes in and asks where everyone is and she tells them they all left to got the the Bauers, and he makes his move. Simple fast scene showing that Alex is lonely and in her own Spaulding screwed up way, wants to make a home like the Bauers were people come to hang out.
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Too bad that they didn't figure out that some of that was due to production values, and less..."staid" writing, and not the vets. Speaking of Hope Bauer, instead of Joan/Alex, what if it was Hope who came back around the anniversary. A stronger, more cynical Hope who comes back to kick Alan's ass, and punish him for ignoring AM...I just think it would be fun for an. 'ex-wife" to chair the "Ex-wife's" club.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
But just as GL was dismantling the Bauers, Marland was building back the Hughes family on ATWT...so I think it really was the producers and the writers who made those choices...look at the Dobsons when they were at ATWT, they totally obscured the Hughes family, while the Bauers were still strong on GL under Marland. Its odd that PG would allow them to do so, ignoring Nancy Hughes, an iconic soap matriarch, so much that the actress leaves is odd.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
During CB's return it would have been interesting to bring back Rita and Hope..Hope first, successful, harder, attracted to Alan but knowing his tricks fighting his influence on AM, while India is Alan's partner in crime, and then comes in Rita with Alan's baby (in any timeline I would have Rita lying that the baby is Alan's and its really Ed's a reverse of the Ed/Roger story.) With Alex, Alan would have his hands full with divas and maybe, he could have stayed away from Reva! Just watching some scenes of Alan and Ed when PS first came back...he made Ed have a backbone in defending Mo, and he had some really good scenes with Mo and his family..what happened? Why did PS become such a sourpuss and Ed became so lethargic and passive (Ed comes off as such a dick from the Holly affair on..or he is completely passive as if he in uninterested in anything.) I would say its the writing and direction, as PS has some strong scenes when he returns during Taggert, who woudl thought Ed Bauer would threaten Mob Mama Carmen, and have a Reva scene where she shuts up and listens to him?
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Agree on all of those, but again, GL missed the boat as they could have brought Hope back with an actress with a bit more intensity...Hope was a recovering alcoholic who got screwed over by what she though was her dream prince. She should have been more cynical, intense and stronger. I wish they had brought her back when CB came back and see her love/hate with Alan, and a strong Hope going toe to toe with Alex, (there is no way Hope would ever allowed a Spaulding to co opt her son like they let Alex be a mother figue with Hope no where in sight.) Rita is more sophisticated and quietly seductive so I dont see Kimmer doing that. But I did love Kimmer as Nola, and she was a quieter vixen so maybe.
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ALL: Soap stars who reportedly didnt get along on set which soap actor feuds were real and which were just fan rumors
Its gotta be Beecroft, as at that time Lujack was very much immersed with the Reardons and Company, (I think Tony caught him trying to steal..) and Tony being a tough brother figure to him. Its too bad I loved Tony and thought Beecroft was sexy..and Long was connecting characters to core families, etc. I dont think that they needed to do a wholesale right off of the Reardons, (and they had no clue how to write for Nola after she had her kids) but can see with that with 4 of the actors from the family leaving, and one actor not likely to be welcomed back (Beecroft) it was hard to write for them. You can really see why some, un, less charismatic actors and characters like Frankie D and Jay Hammer stayed as long as they did simply by being easy to get along with.
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ALL: Soap stars who reportedly didnt get along on set which soap actor feuds were real and which were just fan rumors
Yea, they seemed good with each other so they got to a place where they understood each other. I am amazed that Kimmer would feel threatened when Kristi was an entirely untrained actor, though watching scenes of hers she was just naturally likeable as Roxie,and I loved that Roxie was not a vixen, or a helpless heroine but seemed like a normal young woman, working, going to school and dealing with her family. They needed her back when Rauchies St.Reva was going...Cassie and Reva were intolerable together. Apparently Malloy was just as friendly to new actors as Kimmer, he told Terrel Anthony (no great shakes in the acting either) that he was the male sex symbol star and to not try and piss on his leg!!!
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ALL: Soap stars who reportedly didnt get along on set which soap actor feuds were real and which were just fan rumors
When Locher had the "Shayne Family Reunion" Kristie, who had no f*cks to give and looked like she got out of the nuthouse Roxie was in...said to Alan's "do you remember your first day"......"Oh, I remember mine, and you being a real bitch Miss Kim Zimmer" She said it laughing as they must have gotten on later, and Zimmer looked a little thrown but laughed also, so Kimmer must have been rough on anyone she thought was going to move her over. To clarify on the ATWT with JS and CZ...they were both fighting to be the star, but AM didn't leave because of them, I heard she was fired as she was playing both sides against the middle and stirring up [!@#$%^&*]. Too bad, her grey character would have been good as a foil to the Hughes family.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I always wanted them to bring back Amy Stallings...bio kid of nasty Natalie and raised by Sterile Carol Stallings...I think Amy would have been a great teen vixen and pain in the a@@ coming back and acting like Church Girl but really wanting to sex up the Oakdale population. Instead of that unheard of Vietnamese kid of Tom's, they could have retro wrote that Amy WAS really Tom's kid, and that bring Natalie back to town..(I think Marland would have loved Natalie.)
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I can't see JWS returning, but it would have been cool to see he and Lisa together. A nice chat about the past and maybe him saying, "I made the wrong choice." Elvera...I just wish they had recast Hope. One would think maybe Rauch was hedging his bets and wanted to save Hope to recast in the future, but that didn't happen. At least use Hope to usher AM and Lucy off the canvas...maybe she is running a Bauer Foundation and AM leaves the evil empire of Spaulding to work for her.
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