Mitch64

PS said that on his walk out of the studio, he played TAPS on a bagpipe! So odd, that they got rid of him as they had the Phillip reveal and my Mom thought he was "SEXY" so I am sure a lot of other at that time middle aged ladies thought so as well. Justin's return was the final months of Long tenure..(Reva is just starting to go nuts) so that may have been part of it, though I am sure he had it in more for Kobe as he was mad they were getting rid of all the vets and that was really more on Kobe.

Reading the San Crud start...how the hell did Reva, who had amnesia when she went to Goshen, have a box full of San Crud mementos after (spoiler alert but come on, you see it coming as soon as he appears on screen) Edmund tries to kill her and dumps her body in the drink..only to have the ever convenient fishing boat lug her butt out of the water again...(she had it all wrapped up in plastic bags strapped to her thighs?) Dumb, dumb, dumb...though I do like at the beggining where everyone in SC hates her..."Oh, it her..she's BACK"which mirrored some of the viewers when Kimmer came back. I find Reva so much more fun when she has people hating and annoyed with her. I like Liv and I liked her being tied to the Spauldings, and of course, despite her personal probs with GA, they smoked up the chemistry and she sparring with JoanAlex was fun.) I also thought Edmund was a good addition..an entiteld prince without a kingdom or any money who has to scheme..woudl have made a great pairing with India, and I did like him with SexKitten JoanAlex.

This is why I wanted Nola to find out about the affair and cause of death two years later..when she returned. Michelle, Rick, Bridget and AM would have all had to deal with their perfect "parents" having this horrible cloud over them. Nola who had been gone for years would turn her guilt over not being there for her sister to torturing Ed and Lillian (and give Nola a good reason to go back to her bad ways for a bit.)This could have given PS something to do at the time as Ed finally returns to the bottle, and Holly rushes in to help him (so its Ed causing the issue in the Folly relationship..not Roger, though he would love Ed fall from grace and make use of it.)

Vanessa, Nola or Jenna abusing...Henry??? What, did you find McTavish's storyline projections somewhere? The only storyline like this that would work is Reva slapping that old fool (and cliche) Hawk. Well, I could accept actually Reva and or Buzz being strapped to a chair and the people of SF collectively come and slap the hell out of them, like the citizens of Haddonfield turning on the Monsters that have been abusing(their ears) for years.

I thought they had great chemistry as well. I understand Rauch throwing her in Alan's direction to create a plot to prop up Jeva (who even at this point were tired) but they still could have had that happen..Phillip appealing to Annie's good side and seeing his own edginess in her, while Alan manipulates her from the side and weaponizers her against Jeva..Phillip supporting her but torn between his old buddy Reva and Annie..then the reveal that Annie framed Reva and the fall out of for once Phillip being screwed over. They could have brought in Harley later and had a Annie/Phillip/Harley triangle.

It actually would have been much more interesting if TP's Jonathon was brought back as some kid Josh had...(Sonni's kid when she was Solita and dropped him off at the Catfight Convent as she had better things to do) and HATED Reva...same storyline...and he even seduces Reva to show her as the true Slut of Springfield...Kimmer would have both loved it and hated it...and it would be fun to see Rauch's Soccer Mom Reva shown for her true colors. The show was ending anyway...go Big and Go Home! "The only positive I could find in the show during this time was Reva, and I truly think it was because she wasn't suffocated by weight of 'Bud' and 'Always'. She could function as a character on her own without being judged by her 'true love'." Reva was so much more interesting when she did have the weight of "Always" to drag around. During this time she had a job, she had friends (its Reva so of course they are all men) and yes, he had someone madly in love with her, bit he was a psycho...she was a real character...and then Jarsh came back. TPTB wouldnt seperate them (despite even Kimmer and RN wanting to work with different people) because the audience writing in wouldnt stand for it.) I wish when they brought her back she was not Amish Reva, but part of her amnesia was her free break from Jeva, and she came back as a woman who didnt want to get invovled with that...(but of course she would.)

Why can't I watch THIS alternate GL?!?!?

I love short term returns...As much as I love Nola, I think her second stint should have been short term...it actually was a good time to bring her back with her old nemesis hooking up with her nephew...instead of the sad sack rejected Nola...she would be a novelist going on a book tour who drops into town to remind everyone that Van was not always a saint...("Vanessa, did you pull that fur coat trick on Matt..yes, thats right Matt, Vanessa used to come naked in a fur coat to have sex with your uncle Tony..oh, and she also slept with your uncle Ed, which I have to admit, must have been when Ed had some life in him.") cause trouble with Dinah and Van (as in, maybe Dinah had spent time with Nola in those years she was off the show, and Van is a bit jealous) poke stick in his ass Ed trying to mother Michelle "Oh Michelle, listen to your Auntie Nola...your father is a bit of a stick in the mud, you need to have some fun." And maybe threaten Lillian, "Listen b*tch I know what happened and you better hope I don't put your sordid past in my next book" etc and then leave town. You don't have to invent some affair for Quint or bring him back to try to beat the Quola dead horse..they are happy together, they just dont have their heads up each others butts. Jenna should have returned second time to usher Buzz off canvas, and Edmund and Richard were supposed to be short term but they were supposedly SO popular....

GL should have learned from Philliip writes a novel and visualizes his characters failed storyline...though this was the perfect storyline for Nola. Who is the blond at Company who has the greatest mores realistic reaction to Reva..."Oh God," and tries to put her head down. Reva was most fun when people openly were annoyed with her. Toothy blond Bill, who looks nothing like his TV parents.

Claire was around right before PS came back. Its really odd, they had the Meta/Claire lighthouse storyline (loved the Meta/Claire dynamic...Meta giving her a kick in the ass and Claire the only person in town who doesnt treat Meta like a beloved aunt..more like an annoying aunt you cant get rid of.) MS got sick so I understand they had to dump the planned storyline of the grand reopening of the lighthouse for (and substitute Jeva's sixth millionth wedding? Someone really thought they were quite the ratings draw) but PS came back and Claire just..disappeared. Another missed opp. Claire with Ed's old enemy, and also with Rick and his heart issue, having Claire involved...(and Pratt made such a great pain in the ass.) I also liked that Alan and Claire were just screwing and not making anything more of it. I too liked PS much better on his return then during his post Mo death period. Simon played a great, wounded troubled guy trying to do right. Taggert used him really well, as kind of a Judge Lowell character that people bounded issues off of and he came off so much stronger...and really showed that GL needed quiet characters like Ed and quiet actors like PS to ground the show. It was never shown better then Ed's scene with Reva with KZ trying her tricks on upstaging and PS having none of it and it was a really good scene, KZ had to take it down to meet Simon as Reva would have to with Ed and it also showed that KZ was great with relationship scenes of family and friends instead of the OTT things Rauch contantly put her in.

They had a good scene on a Christmas Eve episode, Alex has a glam party and everyone is there dressed to the nines...(and its MKA's last episode during her short stint, who oddly says she is just taking a trip and will be back) and then another scnene and its Alex by herself kind of picking up after the party (I can see a control freak like her not waiting for the help) and Roger, knowing full well that she is alone comes in and asks where everyone is and she tells them they all left to got the the Bauers, and he makes his move. Simple fast scene showing that Alex is lonely and in her own Spaulding screwed up way, wants to make a home like the Bauers were people come to hang out.

Good idea...Rick needed someone with pep..like Mindy or Stacy, a daughter of Nolas would maybe perk that dope up. I think that waitress he was dating (who was later an undercover FBI agent) was supposed to be Stacy..if she was written better it would work.

Too bad that they didn't figure out that some of that was due to production values, and less..."staid" writing, and not the vets. Speaking of Hope Bauer, instead of Joan/Alex, what if it was Hope who came back around the anniversary. A stronger, more cynical Hope who comes back to kick Alan's ass, and punish him for ignoring AM...I just think it would be fun for an. 'ex-wife" to chair the "Ex-wife's" club.

But just as GL was dismantling the Bauers, Marland was building back the Hughes family on ATWT...so I think it really was the producers and the writers who made those choices...look at the Dobsons when they were at ATWT, they totally obscured the Hughes family, while the Bauers were still strong on GL under Marland. Its odd that PG would allow them to do so, ignoring Nancy Hughes, an iconic soap matriarch, so much that the actress leaves is odd.

Lord...Rita all of a sudden is huffing and puffing and shrieking! What about Judith Chapman, who was sex pot Natalie on ATWT and I think was on YR...though she might be a little too cold for Rita?

During CB's return it would have been interesting to bring back Rita and Hope..Hope first, successful, harder, attracted to Alan but knowing his tricks fighting his influence on AM, while India is Alan's partner in crime, and then comes in Rita with Alan's baby (in any timeline I would have Rita lying that the baby is Alan's and its really Ed's a reverse of the Ed/Roger story.) With Alex, Alan would have his hands full with divas and maybe, he could have stayed away from Reva! Just watching some scenes of Alan and Ed when PS first came back...he made Ed have a backbone in defending Mo, and he had some really good scenes with Mo and his family..what happened? Why did PS become such a sourpuss and Ed became so lethargic and passive (Ed comes off as such a dick from the Holly affair on..or he is completely passive as if he in uninterested in anything.) I would say its the writing and direction, as PS has some strong scenes when he returns during Taggert, who woudl thought Ed Bauer would threaten Mob Mama Carmen, and have a Reva scene where she shuts up and listens to him?

Agree on all of those, but again, GL missed the boat as they could have brought Hope back with an actress with a bit more intensity...Hope was a recovering alcoholic who got screwed over by what she though was her dream prince. She should have been more cynical, intense and stronger. I wish they had brought her back when CB came back and see her love/hate with Alan, and a strong Hope going toe to toe with Alex, (there is no way Hope would ever allowed a Spaulding to co opt her son like they let Alex be a mother figue with Hope no where in sight.) Rita is more sophisticated and quietly seductive so I dont see Kimmer doing that. But I did love Kimmer as Nola, and she was a quieter vixen so maybe.

Its gotta be Beecroft, as at that time Lujack was very much immersed with the Reardons and Company, (I think Tony caught him trying to steal..) and Tony being a tough brother figure to him. Its too bad I loved Tony and thought Beecroft was sexy..and Long was connecting characters to core families, etc. I dont think that they needed to do a wholesale right off of the Reardons, (and they had no clue how to write for Nola after she had her kids) but can see with that with 4 of the actors from the family leaving, and one actor not likely to be welcomed back (Beecroft) it was hard to write for them. You can really see why some, un, less charismatic actors and characters like Frankie D and Jay Hammer stayed as long as they did simply by being easy to get along with.

Yea, they seemed good with each other so they got to a place where they understood each other. I am amazed that Kimmer would feel threatened when Kristi was an entirely untrained actor, though watching scenes of hers she was just naturally likeable as Roxie,and I loved that Roxie was not a vixen, or a helpless heroine but seemed like a normal young woman, working, going to school and dealing with her family. They needed her back when Rauchies St.Reva was going...Cassie and Reva were intolerable together. Apparently Malloy was just as friendly to new actors as Kimmer, he told Terrel Anthony (no great shakes in the acting either) that he was the male sex symbol star and to not try and piss on his leg!!!

When Locher had the "Shayne Family Reunion" Kristie, who had no f*cks to give and looked like she got out of the nuthouse Roxie was in...said to Alan's "do you remember your first day"......"Oh, I remember mine, and you being a real bitch Miss Kim Zimmer" She said it laughing as they must have gotten on later, and Zimmer looked a little thrown but laughed also, so Kimmer must have been rough on anyone she thought was going to move her over. To clarify on the ATWT with JS and CZ...they were both fighting to be the star, but AM didn't leave because of them, I heard she was fired as she was playing both sides against the middle and stirring up [!@#$%^&*]. Too bad, her grey character would have been good as a foil to the Hughes family.

I always wanted them to bring back Amy Stallings...bio kid of nasty Natalie and raised by Sterile Carol Stallings...I think Amy would have been a great teen vixen and pain in the a@@ coming back and acting like Church Girl but really wanting to sex up the Oakdale population. Instead of that unheard of Vietnamese kid of Tom's, they could have retro wrote that Amy WAS really Tom's kid, and that bring Natalie back to town..(I think Marland would have loved Natalie.)

I can't see JWS returning, but it would have been cool to see he and Lisa together. A nice chat about the past and maybe him saying, "I made the wrong choice." Elvera...I just wish they had recast Hope. One would think maybe Rauch was hedging his bets and wanted to save Hope to recast in the future, but that didn't happen. At least use Hope to usher AM and Lucy off the canvas...maybe she is running a Bauer Foundation and AM leaves the evil empire of Spaulding to work for her.

The only good thing about bringing Jenna back and that dumb sting thing(which I had no idea what the plot was but it went on and on...) was to get her and Buzz together and usher them off canvas. Frank and Harley always had a better dynamic without Buzzard around. Reva who was molested as a kid, in love with a rapist...who WAS Cole blowing that they worked so hard to keep him on? I did like that Beth was not perfect and yes, with everything she went through, she would have problems. I thought the idea of split personalities worked, as they made Beth's personalty match the plot, and one of them being dependent on men and sexually compulsive because of her abuse, but they dropped the ball on that one.

Van had more conversations about Henry with Soccer Mom Jenna of all people, but of course Jenna had Buzzard firmly tied around her neck so that somehow made her valued. Yea, Nola as the depressed looser was too much...especially when SlutChelle tells her she is a sad sack in the diner of all places, and Nola just sits there a mopes. But her last weeks scenes made up for it, Nola was back..insulting the Coopers,(and Buzz seems to forget she "stalked" him) giving Lillian the stink eye, needling Van "Are you REALLY glad to see me Vanessa?" and of course, blowing us all a kiss goodbye. But that was all due to Brown I am sure. And I forgot about Reva talking to that looser's picture..like they were a long term couple.

Yuck...they did that AGAIN??? Glad the Island of Cheese turned me off of GL at that time. They really didn't need to bring back Fletch, if anything, it should have been Ed, played by MH. Ed had one foot in his demons and one foot in respectable suburbia, so he would have been able to help Holly come back...(and Fletch was too judgey all the time.) Ed and Holly as the notBob/Kim tentpoles of SF would have worked well.