Watching the classic episode from Friday, I have to say I really love seeing a blonde Heather Tom. The episode, so far, is really what a true soap looks like. The budget though! It's clear the show had money and time on its hands. The amount of closeup shots on actor faces as they went from scene to scene didn't feel unnecessary. It felt right, especially the one of Victor on the phone with Miguel and then talking under his breath when Miguel tells him that Nikki doesn't want to be found.

 

I also noticed that even though I know this history, I'm REALLY involved with what's gonna happen next. The consequences facing these characters as they lie and cheat feels really, real.

3 hours ago, Errol said:

 

I also noticed that even though I know this history, I'm REALLY involved with what's gonna happen next. The consequences facing these characters as they lie and cheat feels really, real.

 

That's what was so different and great about the show back then compared to now. It wasn't about blockbuster plot twists. It was OMG Jill knocked on Katherine's door or Victor is headed to see Jack, tomorrow is going to be good! It was all in the writing.

9 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

Jess Walton gave a good interview to Michael Fairman about Katherine the Great Week, Jeanne, and her time in general on Y&R:

 

https://michaelfairmantv.com/yrs-jess-walton-remembers-jeanne-cooper-classic-katherine-jill-and-talks-life-in-present-day-gc/2020/04/26/

 

Thanks, DaytimeFan!

 

"I also know she never liked the story of Katherine being Jill’s mother, and I always loved it, because I thought it explained the love/hate relationship so well.  I think she thought it would damage their relationship, and it kind of did for a while."

 

God bless you, Mrs. C. You knew what was up, and Walton finally kinda admits it was horrible.

 

I adore Walton but she's not the type of actor who should be giving storyline ideas; she liked the mother/daughter fiasco, suggested the story that led to Cane, and her vision of Jill having a strong partner to always be around with goes very much against what Jill should be doing. While I can see Jill being less of an outsider by now, with relationships etc, she should always be running around interfering in others' lives. lol

3 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

 

That's what was so different and great about the show back then compared to now. It wasn't about blockbuster plot twists. It was OMG Jill knocked on Katherine's door or Victor is headed to see Jack, tomorrow is going to be good! It was all in the writing.

 

That's exactly right. I think it was Sara Bibel who once said that Jill ringing Katherine's doorbell was a genuine cliffhanger, and it was because of the great character work the show had invested in. You indeed just knew whatever would follow would be worth it. And, of course, they still delivered their shockers, too!

I found it so interesting she said Jill should have a partner so she'd have her own house and someone to accompany her to parties. Kind of similar to real life. Though TEB and LLB could tell her that gives you nothing storywise.

I thought she had half-retired and was not interested in coming back full term, though!

 

Fabulous scene. When exactly did Brenda Dickson start acting like a nutter? She's incredible here.

14 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

Fabulous scene. When exactly did Brenda Dickson start acting like a nutter? She's incredible here.

My oh my. Katherine was such a vicious old crone.

In today's intro, Doug Davidson specifically addressed longtime viewers by saying, in regards to Cassandra, "if you remember, she was nothing but trouble." I know that's a tiny, tiny thing, but it kind of backs up an argument that they're focusing more on longtime viewers than newer viewers with episode selection here.

ETA: Good God, that Jill/Katherine scene is great, and BD was amazing in it from start to finish.

Edited April 27, 20205 yr by All My Shadows

15 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

Fabulous scene. When exactly did Brenda Dickson start acting like a nutter? She's incredible here.

I think most of the problems with Brenda started around mid 1985 and just got worst from there. She still played Jill like she had in the 70s in 83-84, but I guess just “richer”.

You don't see that type of subtlety or quiet, cold rage in scenes today, especially with characters who are women. Today's Y&R would've had Jill and Esther bickering from the moment Jill arrived and Katherine playing referee before barking at both Jill and Esther.

Perhaps because Daytime Emmys, which became the arbiter of what was scene as high-level performances seemed to overwhelmingly award more maudlin performances, the writers dispensed with the subtleties and went in favor of outright crying, shrieking and wailing in scenes. And yelling, cannot forget the yelling.

2 hours ago, Aback said:

I thought she had half-retired and was not interested in coming back full term, though!

 

I assumed it was an excuse she threw out there because she despised her storylines and thought it wasn't worth showing up for what was being written for her. I'm surprised people take these actors so literally.

Edited April 27, 20205 yr by DramatistDreamer

Oh Dear God, why is governor Baker talking in Boston ?? I want to see Jeanne Cooper !

39 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I assumed it was an excuse she threw out there because she despised her storylines and thought it wasn't worth showing up for what was being written for her. I'm surprised people take these actors so literally.

 

I'm not that interested in JW's reasons, since I don't like her take on Jill and I don't like her storyline suggestions (but I do like her as a person from what I've seen in interviews). If she did make up an excuse, at least she should be consistent with it, I think...

Edited April 27, 20205 yr by Aback

32 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

In today's intro, Doug Davidson specifically addressed longtime viewers by saying, in regards to Cassandra, "if you remember, she was nothing but trouble." I know that's a tiny, tiny thing, but it kind of backs up an argument that they're focusing more on longtime viewers than newer viewers with episode selection here.

ETA: Good God, that Jill/Katherine scene is great, and BD was amazing in it from start to finish.

 

If not for Cassandra I never would have gotten into Y&R. Boy I just adored her. I guess that should have told me something about myself...

Cuomo ended early, only for the NJ press update to begin early. We’re missing this in the NYC area.

Danny always gave me gay vibes. It is great seeing Amy again.