2 hours ago, KMan101 said:

 

Preach. I don't care at all about Celeste or Lola. Lola also really needs to be a bitch. The actress seems like she could really play it much better. Lola's a waste and a lost cause. Agreed on Celeste not being utilized properly but then we'd be bitching she never had any scenes with her kids so ... but there can be a better balance. I just don't care about the Rosales. They're blah, the writing is blah ... I wish I cared.

 

It was nice to see Faith again.

 

I had to roll my eyes though with how much Chelsea and Adam are on. Lord. Make it stop! It's a shame too because I like Mark Grossman. But Adam already feels tired and played out. They should have gone in a different direction.

 

I really do feel like Lola is a lost cause at this point. I don't really think there is much of anything that can be done to make this character interesting. Or make the pairing with her and Kyle interesting. (Though I do think that the character of Kyle still has a lot of potential and would be fine if freed from her). I wish they would do more with Celeste and I really do feel like she's being isolated with mostly her family. And now it's being written that she got back together with her husband, which I feel is preventing her from mixing it up with someone like Jack. It's like Josh doesn't want to tarnish her image and is keeping her uptight/reserved.  I think she would be more interesting interacting with Jack/possibly going after him. I don't care for these plotlines with her and Lola. Her preventing them Kyle/Lola from living together is something that would be soapy in the 50s and I don't think her dating her husband is interesting either. 

 

I think they should show Chelsea and Adam less. Especially Adam. I like Mark Grossman but Adam is being shown too much and it feels like the writing for him is getting stale. I do wonder what is going on with him and Chance. I've seen some people speculate that him and Chance were undercover in some type of sting in Vegas and that may explain why Chance got involved with shady dealings. I Think that would be interesting and could give Adam a chance to play a more layered character like he did when he had amnesia. And Chance could also play a more layered character. Maybe Chance could have ended up enjoying participating in some of the shady dealings in spite of himself, and that may explain some of the news that is coming out about him, turning darker. 

 

On today's show it was mentioned that he had gotten involved in money laundering and other shady dealings. Maybe that ties into him possibly going undercover with Adam. 

 

Also, on today's show I actually liked Billy getting on Cane regarding Traci. I think he was already on edge because of Delia, but I thought him questioning Cane about Traci was funny. I was glad to see him show some concern for her. And I enjoyed seeing Jill on today's show and her interactions with Cane, Nikki and especially Jack. I wish she would come around more often, maybe she will once Chance comes back.

 

Y'all.  The more you talk about Lola being a lost cause and such, the more you hurt Angelica McDaniel's feelings.

1 hour ago, xtr said:

Also, on today's show I actually liked Billy getting on Cane regarding Traci. I think he was already on edge because of Delia, but I thought him questioning Cane about Traci was funny. I was glad to see him show some concern for her. And I enjoyed seeing Jill on today's show and her interactions with Cane, Nikki and especially Jack. I wish she would come around more often, maybe she will once Chance comes back.

 

I wish I could give a damn about Cane and Traci, but thanks to DG's underhanded tactics, I'm just wishing Beth Maitland had someone thing better to do.

44 minutes ago, Khan said:

Y'all.  The more you talk about Lola being a lost cause and such, the more you hurt Angelica McDaniel's feelings.

 

I wish I could give a damn about Cane and Traci, but thanks to DG's underhanded tactics, I'm just wishing Beth Maitland had someone thing better to do.

 

On today's show Cane looked very happy when he was talking about Traci and her book.  Maybe DG has or will embrace this pairing more, I do like them together. Also Cane mentioned that he is selling the Ashby family home. I wonder if that is happening because they have gotten rid of that set or if maybe he will sell the home to someone in town. I wonder if:

 

Spoiler

Devon will buy the home. There is a spoiler and promo that Devon and Elena will move in together. Technically they are already living together in the penthouse, but I wonder if they move someone else like the Ashby family home. Or if they stay put and that spoiler has some other meaning to it. If they don't buy the Ashby family home, I wonder if another character will. 

 

I also wonder where Cane will live now that he is selling the Ashby family home. Maybe he and Sam will move into the Chancellor Mansion now that, the set is back. 

Edited July 16, 20196 yr by xtr

8 hours ago, Ponds said:

I like the semi-reformed Adam as played by Justin Hartman and can't understand why they brought him back as such an evil [!@#$%^&*].

This has been my biggest complaint since they brought him back. They have completely erased the Adam that was played by Justin Hartley. He just randomly was evil again with no explanation as to why. And everyone hated him again, when he was actually cool with everyone before he got blown up.

Edited July 17, 20196 yr by Antoyne

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

This has been my biggest complaint since they brought him back. They have completely erased the Adam that was played by Justin Hartley. He just randomly was evil again with no explanation as to why. And everyone hated him again, when he was actually cool with everyone before he got blown up.

 

Thank you for correcting my spelling of Justin Hartley's name.  It is really inconceivable that they made this change.  He was the one who wanted Nick to raise Connor.....it makes no sense.

The show is very dull.

1 hour ago, Ponds said:

 

Thank you for correcting my spelling of Justin Hartley's name.  It is really inconceivable that they made this change.  He was the one who wanted Nick to raise Connor.....it makes no sense.

I remember that scene. I can’t remember if the show has even acknowledged that Adam wanted it. 

13 hours ago, Fevuh said:

It'll probably happen soon with someone.  

 

I don't even know how you can say that - it's been all Adam all the time for at least a month or two.  There's hardly a scene that he's not mentioned or that he's in.  He's completely eating the whole show.  Maybe it's just because I've tuned in at the wrong time but when I had it on 2 and 3 weeks ago for 1/2 hour here and there - it was all Adam.  And I just don't want to see storylines from 5 or 6 years ago.  The Chelsea/Adam angst that I'm sure it will become, the Chloe/Kevin, the Chloe needs to kill Adam, Chloe tries to forgive Adam, Billy is going to kill Adam because of Delia and on and on that I'm sure is probably going to dominate the storylines.  I'm going to be watching The Real from a day behind that I've already seen rather than The Adam and the RestofUs.

 

God love you, Fevuh, but tbh, you’re always staying away from the show, fast-forwarding through the hour in 10 minutes,  or watching 5 minutes before turning it off. 

I guess we'll at least give him credit for tuning in just a little bit - given that the show has consistently been hitting all-time lows in the ratings for several weeks now. Something about the show clearly isn't resonating with its audience, and more so than the usual "daytime is dying anyway" sentiment. 

Edited July 17, 20196 yr by BetterForgotten

9 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

I guess we'll at least give him credit for tuning in just a little bit - given that the show has consistently been hitting all-time lows in the ratings for several weeks now. Something about the show clearly isn't resonating with its audience, and more so than the usual "daytime is dying anyway" sentiment. 

 

This is the farthest away from the show I've ever been. I come here maybe once a week to read opinions and see thats happening. Nothing I see is making me want to watch. I definitely think it's at an all time low and the ratings reflect that. 

It's clear that Griffith and Morina's "big bets" aren't working, and the ratings reinforce that. It's never a good idea to revolve a show around a recast (Adam), bring characters back for the sake of it with little direction or need (Kevin and Chelsea), and trying to force-feed pairings that have never worked and will never work (Kyle/Lola). On top of that, bringing back a polarizing actress (Stafford). 

 

Also, after they proved their worth during the week of Neil's death/Kristoff's tribute, the black cast is still treated with no respect or substantial story development. Maybe they're in a holding pattern until Mishael can return full-time, but that's not enough. 

 

It's just too many things at once and most of it is clearly not working and not what the audience at home seems to want. 

Edited July 17, 20196 yr by BetterForgotten

25 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

It's clear that Griffith and Morina's "big bets" aren't working, and the ratings reinforce that. It's never a good idea to revolve a show around a recast (Adam), bring characters back for the sake of it with little direction or need (Kevin and Chelsea), and trying to force-feed pairings that have never worked and will never work (Kyle/Lola). On top of that, bringing back a polarizing actress (Stafford). 

 

Also, after they proved their worth during the week of Neil's death/Kristoff's tribute, the black cast is still treated with no respect or substantial story development. Maybe they're in a holding patter until Mishael can return full-time, but that's not enough. 

 

It's just too many things at once and most of it is clearly not working and not what the audience at home seems to want. 

 

Ana hasn't been on since last Monday, (And she won't be on today). That's like seven episodes she hasn't been featured. Yet IMO, her and Theo interacting more was the most interesting thing that happened during the week of these latest ratings. They really need to do better by the black cast as well as the young cast in general. 

 

I think they need to scale back on characters like Adam and Chelsea, because Adam is being run into the ground (and his story is starting to feel stale and boring) And Chelsea is not interesting either. I think that this show definitely needs more balance and better writing.

Edited July 17, 20196 yr by xtr

Any thoughts on how Heather Toms directing seemed today? I thought she did a good job making some of the camera work and movements feel like classic Y&R at least.

1 hour ago, YRfan23 said:

Any thoughts on how Heather Toms directing seemed today? I thought she did a good job making some of the camera work and movements feel like classic Y&R at least.

 

Oh wow I should check the eppy!

Who the hell dressed Traci today?  Could they have found a more unflattering outfit?  I felt sorry for Beth having to wear that color or style.