With the writing if Hilary and the talk show/news show....to make it work...the show (alden/sussman)  should look to how bill bell wrote Leanna Love when her character got a talk show.  She was underhanded, fighting to keep the show going...etc.  I still recall her 'I hate men' chant she started....even inspiring Gina to finally go off on convict hubby Clint at the prison.

 

Of course, she was a vixen with a heart of gold...that was friends with Chase, Rex, and Jack.  So I agree Hilary needs a friend...maybe even someone like Ravi.  

58 minutes ago, GMac said:

@DramatistDreamer since 2 posters already quoted your post, I won't do it again  But I think what you said is absolutely perfect.  And none of that would be too hard to write.  It appears as though SSM and MY have plenty of writers on staff soooo...the only conclusion is

 

 

+1

 

So I really like the actor playing Charlie.  He's a very handsome young man, has charisma galore and while he's a little green, I can see him growing into a good actor. 

 

 

I like him too. He's the star of the 3 teens. But I don't think he will get the star treatment, which is kinda sad. 

Edited July 27, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

I love seeing Cane sweat!  I hope the rest comes out!

 

I can't stand Charlie...hate the character.

 

The actor playing Jordan is downright awful!

Edited July 27, 20178 yr by Soapsuds

I love Charlie!

1 hour ago, GMac said:

@DramatistDreamer since 2 posters already quoted your post, I won't do it again  But I think what you said is absolutely perfect.  And none of that would be too hard to write.  It appears as though SSM and MY have plenty of writers on staff soooo...the only conclusion is

 

 

+1

 

So I really like the actor playing Charlie.  He's a very handsome young man, has charisma galore and while he's a little green, I can see him growing into a good actor. 

 

I've been trying to decide whether it's indifference, laziness or intentional.  With the Dina and the Cane stories, there seems to be an ever growing focus in the writing (likely because that is where the interest has gravitated) but there are still plenty of moments of haphazard writing on the show, especially in the execution. 

 

I wish they'd bring Aunt Jack back into Hilary's orbit. The fight video should've warranted a drop-by with Aunty squealing with his best GF over her making the Newmans squirm. (Who can't visualize that scen?),And wouldn't Jack have been all over Hilary's involvement with Juliet - helping tarnish B&S? I love the Jack/Hilary interactions because that relationship allows Hilary to drop her guard with a safe, nonjudgmental friend, who's done a lot of shady things in himself. I think the writers are missing a lot of logical scenes. 

17 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

I wish they'd bring Aunt Jack back into Hilary's orbit. The fight video should've warranted a drop-by with Aunty squealing with his best GF over her making the Newmans squirm. (Who can't visualize that scen?),And wouldn't Jack have been all over Hilary's involvement with Juliet - helping tarnish B&S? I love the Jack/Hilary interactions because that relationship allows Hilary to drop her guard with a safe, nonjudgmental friend, who's done a lot of shady things in himself. I think the writers are missing a lot of logical scenes. 

 

Good point. I miss the Jack/Hilary friendship. He was a good sounding board/father figure for her. Jack should be all over everything she's doing.

Edited July 27, 20178 yr by KMan101

11 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

My problem with the Hilary audition video is not that it will step all over Lily's audition (that part is pure soap) but that the action wasn't grounded in anything. It was essentially a "mustache twirling" moment.

 

 

I agree. That was unnecessary on the writers part.

 

10 hours ago, GMac said:

@DramatistDreamer

So I really like the actor playing Charlie.  He's a very handsome young man, has charisma galore and while he's a little green, I can see him growing into a good actor. 

 

 

I like him too. He doesn't take me out of the scene which is a good thing. He's quite engaging. They just have to write to his strengths and let him develop right now.

 

8 hours ago, KMan101 said:

 

Good point. I miss the Jack/Hilary friendship. He was a good sounding board/father figure for her. Jack should be all over everything she's doing.

 

I completely forgot the Jack/Hillary friendship. I agree with you too. 

 

Cane also has some [!@#$%^&*] nerve going to Victoria like that. But I love it. Cane has been this engaging, in, well ever.

 

Shallow note - Victoria's doctor was hot!

Edited July 28, 20178 yr by StepBack

Cane is about to lose it all. Sally wants strivers and I think they've pegged Cane as one. He will have nothing in the end so we can see him fight to get it back. I have no illusions that they'll fire DG so...

14 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Cane is about to lose it all. Sally wants strivers and I think they've pegged Cane as one. He will have nothing in the end so we can see him fight to get it back. I have no illusions that they'll fire DG so...

 

I haven't read any spoilers, but when he called Victoria a "stone cold bitch" that took me by surprise. DG is actually doing good work and the writing for him is making him interesting. If they wrote Cane like this from the beginning, instead of a romantic lead, he would have been much better

8 minutes ago, StepBack said:

 

I haven't read any spoilers, but when he called Victoria a "stone cold bitch" that took me by surprise. DG is actually doing good work and the writing for him is making him interesting. If they wrote Cane like this from the beginning, instead of a romantic lead, he would have been much better

 

Cane can be in romances and still be written this way. But I agree with you. The cape wearing altruistic liar didn't cut it. 

9 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Cane can be in romances and still be written this way. But I agree with you. The cape wearing altruistic liar didn't cut it. 

 

Oh yeah, definitely agreed on the first point. I was thinking more of early stages Michael (without all the creepiness), and a little of Brad. Cane is about to get a whole lot more interesting now, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I can't wait. Funny thing is, when Juliet first arrived on screen I didn't care much at all. Who knew that one character could impact so much of the canvas, and the actress/character would grow on me so well. 

10 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

 

The actor playing Jordan is downright awful!

 

He's definitely a bit stiff, but, like the actor who plays Charlie I feel that both are destined to be excellent leading man one day. Don Diamont (Brad Carlton) was never the best actor, but he ended up on Y&R for a considerably long time.

 

Edited to add: Overall this has been a good week for Y&R. Stories continue to move, and interesting developments came about.

Edited July 28, 20178 yr by StepBack

At first I thought the girl playing Mattie was the better actor of the twins, but she's regressed and the kid playing Charlie has improved a lot. I can see her thinking when she delivers her lines, and he's much more natural.

 

I think the actor playing Jordan has improved a lot, too. 

 

Why shouldnt Noah listen to Nick and do a slow rollout of the Underground chain? Isn't Nick providing the capital? Noah's description of the chain's path to success was hilariously simple.

 

Mariah is written like a dolt -- inviting Tessa and Noah on her music fest weekend. One day she's worried about Devon loving her. A day later she's giving long glances at Tessa. And why is Noah so excited about flying on the private jet? Don't the Newmans gave private jets? This show never remembers who has money, or how much.

 

Just like Cane and Lily worrying constantly about their finances and putting food on the table. Ugh. Already they're in financial distress? They don't exactly live in a mansion. Why not call Jill for a job or a loan?

 

I enjoy the Cane story, but sometimes I'd like to hear a line of dialogue thrown in to acknowledge some of the things we're thinking. How about "I could call Jill for a job but I need to do this in my own."? That's all it would take.

Right down to his slumped shoulders, Charlie is doing and saying 'teenage-ry' things and I appreciate that.  We often complain when the teen characters are seen acting like middle aged people, instead of adolescents trying to find their identities and find their way. Teenagers don't always 'act right' or say the right things, some mumble and trip over words, hold their head down. I find that part to be realistic.

And the actor playing Charlie didn't have much to do in the past, unlike Mattie who seemed to have an active storyline from the very beginning (where she was obviously headed toward a summer dating thing with Reed), only now that Cane's collapse in work/relationship has been revealed does the actor playing Charlie actual have material to work with and I think he's doing pretty well and hopefully he continues to do well and get better.

 

I also think that Jordan has improved. There's a definite learning curve for soap acting because there's a lot of material and the rehearsal time and direction provided to actors is not what it used to be and this is probably tough on an actor who is relatively new to daytime, but the actor playing Jordan seems to be getting the hang of things. His romantic interactions with Hilary can still be a little stiff but I think that most of his other scenes- with Hilary as well as with other actors who play Lily, Chelsea and even Devon have come across pretty well.

It could be interesting to see how Jordan reacts to Hilary's actions with the audition video (although the set up for this story could have/should have been written much better).

17 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

I wish they'd bring Aunt Jack back into Hilary's orbit. The fight video should've warranted a drop-by with Aunty squealing with his best GF over her making the Newmans squirm. (Who can't visualize that scen?),And wouldn't Jack have been all over Hilary's involvement with Juliet - helping tarnish B&S? I love the Jack/Hilary interactions because that relationship allows Hilary to drop her guard with a safe, nonjudgmental friend, who's done a lot of shady things in himself. I think the writers are missing a lot of logical scenes. 

 

 

This!  Zzzzzzzally doesn't realize these small things mean so much!