We talk a lot of [!@#$%^&*] about Shawn and Jordan and their characters and stories on this board and others, much of it deserved. But I always liked Sean Blakemore, I know how excellent Tequan Richmond is, and it is shameful that with the great performances they put out today (particularly Blakemore, who surprised me) that they all get relegated to "the Black Hour" on every second or third mid-week show. They deserve better. I am still all for putting Jordan back in the mix with Julian and Shawn back in Carly's orbit.

+1

But realistically, it'll never happen. Ron is eager to slap Carly back into either Sonny or Franco's orbits again.

And Shawn is Benson to him [RC]. He cooks the important character meals and serve it to them when he's not serving Saint Sonny.

Tequan, Sean, and Vinessa deserve so much better.

I can't remember but was Lulu in that first part of the interview with Liz, etc. as a "hero"? If not, lol at how everyone forgets about her. Emme Rylan has made Lulu totally forgettable and the writing is terrible. Lulu could really be anybody. And the fact that Laura doesn't even exist as a character while Lulu goes through all of her crap does her storylines no favors. At least Guza threw her in a coma.

No Ron didn't mention her. I also, like you, assumed he forgot about her because Emme is such a non-entity in the role. They really need to recast her if they intend on keeping Lulu on canvas.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by alexisfan07

I am sorry Carly will not be going to prison. One of the most famous soaps ever was Prisoner:Cell Block H, and GH could have gone on to do an extended women's prison storyline busting out every cliche to the point Linda Blair would blush.

I love the way Patrick and Sam snoop and find these clues like something out of Nancy Drew.

How is Sonny going to get out of this one? And Ava? it is going to take some good writing to achieve that..Chad, Michael hit it out of the pard this week..I always liked him and now he is showing what he can do with his acting. IMO

No Ron didn't mention her. I also, like you, assumed he forgot about her because Emme is such a non-entity in the role. They really need to recast her if they intend on keeping Lulu on canvas.

LOL. I didn't think so but I had so much I wanted to post about the interview I couldn't recall everything. Very true. They need to recast and get a stronger actress in the role who can rise above the non-character Lulu's become.

+1

But realistically, it'll never happen. Ron is eager to slap Carly back into either Sonny or Franco's orbits again.

And Shawn is Benson to him [RC]. He cooks the important character meals and serve it to them when he's not serving Saint Sonny.

Tequan, Sean, and Vinessa deserve so much better.

This. And +1 to Vee's post.

I am sorry Carly will not be going to prison. One of the most famous soaps ever was Prisoner:Cell Block H, and GH could have gone on to do an extended women's prison storyline busting out every cliche to the point Linda Blair would blush.

I love the way Patrick and Sam snoop and find these clues like something out of Nancy Drew.

I agree! Carly going to jail might have been pretty good. Of course, we have to hurry this Sonny The Saint sh!t along so we can move on to the next set of characters. Honestly, why should the audience invest? Yesterday was a prime example of how they move the cast around like cattle to hurry and fit so much junk into a day. Budget Guru my ass! Cheap trash shouldn't show on my screen.The truth came out 2 weeks ago and Sonny has already taken a plea? This character has gone years being the most self serving jackass who treats women very badly while they cover his ass. I'm to believe Sonny would make that sacrifice for Carly? His biggest enabler? Nope, I needed to see the process of Sonny's "change". He's carted off to jail and that's it?

Kman, little Hannah (Joss)!!!! That child is such a wonderful little actress. Did you see Joss' face when she learned her mother was in jail? Wow! I don't like little fresh kids but this girl just rocks my socks! She is so good.

Michael - not feeling this clown at all. While I don't mind anyone going off on fish face, Michael is taking it too far almost to the point of being abusive. He called her an idiot and stupid to her face, which was so far out of line (adult Michael has never lied?). Did you see the look Anna gave Mr. Self Righteous? Right now, FrankenRon have the viewers right where they want them. They are "giving back" by allowing Michael to go off on a pet, a pet that most of the audience would rather see dead. How long do you think that's gonna last? How soon before you start feeling bad for Kaka? Michael is being set up for a huge fall and that is tragic. They should have stuck with him sticking it to his parents and divorcing them. Now, he is just a jackass. Not how I want to see this go down. Michael will become very unlikable, which works out perfectly because he will be in the Q Mansion with the rest of the Qs FrankenRon don't give a sh!t about. Don't take my word.

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Shawn/Jordan/TJ - scenes would have worked so much better had TJ been onscreen a bit more. TR is such a wonderful young actor but I was not feeling the scenes because we were given NOTHING prior to "the reveal", which bothered me to the point of not being able to properly convey my complete and utter disgust!

The top 2 pet clowns are back today - gonna skip!

Calling Kiki an idiot and a liar is never abusive. That being said, the show is straining to try and make us sympathize with her and Morgan for "just having Michael's best interests at heart" - though it's clear at least one writer at the show (who wrote the great scenes where Michael tore her apart after she found him in bed with Rosalie) hates that bitch as much as we do.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by Vee

People really want to see Carly in jail? Meh. I'm glad they've moved along Sonny and Carly.

Nice to see Lucas but meh to Julian. I'm tired of him being written as a victim in all of this. And I see Brad and Lucas, like all the other couples except the pets, are having a relationship that's almost completely off-screen.

So I take it Faison is Fluke? Considering Anna says he isn't dead and we clearly see a straight jacket tomorrow so I assume Puke is on? I could be wrong though. The anvils were there though. Please no more masks.

I think it's clear they want people to sympathize with Kaka and Morgan but I'm team Michael even though his self righteousness is already old.

Slept through the first half of the show. Woke up to Stafford actually trying (even though it's all about making people feel sorry for Nina and Stafford fans are eating that [!@#$%^&*] up). Howarth looked bored as !@#$%^&*] and the absolutely ridiculousness of Obrecht all high and mighty over Anna, with that awful acting agent. Zzzzz.

I see they remembered Olivia exists. Alexis couldn't wait to run to Julian, could she? Lord this woman is PATHETIC but whatever gets Nancy airtime I suppose.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by KMan101

When they had their scenes the other day at Kelly's I was like WTF?? What a boring mess!! The only one that does have true talent is the actress who plays Carly's daughter. The actor who plays Cameron is blah at best but he doesn't annoy me.

The WORST is the actor who plays Spencer…the actor sucks big time..he is an awful annoying actor…I thought maybe at first it was the way Valentini wanted him to play the role but its not…the actor needs to be recast. The whole whining about Uncle Sonny going to jail was pure s hit and annoying…ugh…

When they had their scenes the other day at Kelly's I was like WTF?? What a boring mess!! The only one that does have true talent is the actress who plays Carly's daughter. The actor who plays Cameron is blah at best but he doesn't annoy me.

The WORST is the actor who plays Spencer…the actor sucks big time..he is an awful annoying actor…I thought maybe at first it was the way Valentini wanted him to play the role but its not…the actor needs to be recast. The whole whining about Uncle Sonny going to jail was pure s hit and annoying…ugh…

Hahahaha…you should see his posts on Twitter when commenting on a soap while it is on the TV airwaves….man does he suck…and he is not even professional when talking about the story lines on Twitter

Well I do have to say that's his own personal twitter account, so it's his own opinions, it's not the DC page he's tweeting, so it's very different

Well I do have to say that's his own personal twitter account, so it's his own opinions, it's not the DC page he's tweeting, so it's very different

I agree with SS. Sitting on Twitter slobbering over actors with the "HW" makes it almost impossible to be objective. That idiot from ABCSID proves this daily!

ABCSID is completely unprofessional, whoever that is who runs the twitter.

I'm shocked SID is still around and still being published, to be honest.

Edited November 20, 201411 yr by KMan101

This character has gone years being the most self serving jackass who treats women very badly while they cover his ass. I'm to believe Sonny would make that sacrifice for Carly? His biggest enabler? Nope, I needed to see the process of Sonny's "change". He's carted off to jail and that's it?

This is so true. I've hated Sonny for a long time and he has always been incredibly selfish. Still, I do feel bad for him at times. I guess I'm a sap, but when Carly and Sonny were in jail and told Michael they loved him, I couldn't help but feel some sympathy.

My point being, I think Sonny can be "redeemed" (trite, I know), but the audience actually needs to see it happening. Sonny is still the star of the show, so you'd think they would showcase this kind of turn around. I guess we've seen him haunted by AJ and Connie a bit, but still, this could be more nuanced.

People really want to see Carly in jail? Meh. I'm glad they've moved along Sonny and Carly.

Nice to see Lucas but meh to Julian. I'm tired of him being written as a victim in all of this. And I see Brad and Lucas, like all the other couples except the pets, are having a relationship that's almost completely off-screen.

So I take it Faison is Fluke? Considering Anna says he isn't dead and we clearly see a straight jacket tomorrow so I assume Puke is on? I could be wrong though. The anvils were there though. Please no more masks.

I think it's clear they want people to sympathize with Kaka and Morgan but I'm team Michael even though his self righteousness is already old.

Slept through the first half of the show. Woke up to Stafford actually trying (even though it's all about making people feel sorry for Nina and Stafford fans are eating that [!@#$%^&*] up). Howarth looked bored as [!@#$%^&*] and the absolutely ridiculousness of Obrecht all high and mighty over Anna, with that awful acting agent. Zzzzz.

I see they remembered Olivia exists. Alexis couldn't wait to run to Julian, could she? Lord this woman is PATHETIC but whatever gets Nancy airtime I suppose.

It was one boring mess of an episode. I ff thru the whole thing.

Dr. O to Anna: "You lying scarecrow!"

LooLoo: "It's unseasinably warm November weather."

Dr. O to Anna: "You lying scarecrow!"

LooLoo: "It's unseasinably warm November weather.":o

So PC has strange weather? Do the Cassadines own a new weather machine?