The thing that makes this sad to me is seeing yet another show just tossed into the hands of one of the same old, same old names. The fact that TPTB feel comfortable throwing the show into the recycling bin tells me that there's no real interest in improving any of this. It's more about trying something half-assed for Y&R until they can get another winner a la The Talk.

What did I do to get blocked?

Not you. <3

Is there seriously a block feature on this board. I've looked for it but can't find it.

Click on your name at the top of the board when you are signed in. In the drop down menu click on "my settings". "Ignore preferences" is in the column on the left.

Click on your name at the top of the board when you are signed in. In the drop down menu click on "my settings". "Ignore preferences" is in the column on the left.

Thank you so much.

I see what is going on now. Sarcasm. You have chided others for implying that because only 4 soaps are still on, we should accept and embrace them as they are.

Exactly. These soaps have been on for decades. I watched when I was a toddler with my grandmother. They matter (mattered - as in GL and ATWT to me).

OK CH, I am not familiar with Pratt or Craptini so you can exclude me from the "Craptini's stuff is OK then Pratt's will be too." Obviously none of their stuff is OK with you and what you feel matters as much to you as the way the rest of us feels matters to us. That is in response to your comment on QFan's status update.

As I wrote above, I believe many of your posts about this are sarcasm. And pain. Instead of writing: I feel your pain. This is how I feel about GH. You are in essence writing: It happened to me - suck it up. Not sure if you care which is more productive. I read somewhere that when someone doesn't validate/ignores another's feelings, the unvalidated person's body responds in every way as if it has just endured physical pain.

Everyone wants to feel heard. It's odd that you understand Y&R viewers pain more than most, yet you are almost mocking us. Perhaps I am not the only Y&R fan who is not familiar with Pratt or Craptini or GH...?

My apologies if I'm giving anyone the impression that I got screwed so I want them to get screwed as well. That is not the case at all. I was specifically targeting Q with my question as well as that other person. Why is one being heralded at the man who saved GH and revitalized it but the other is the death knell to YR while being accused of the very same things that moRon is getting away with daily?

I've been watching soaps since I was 13, starting with OLTL, and I cannot believe the trash that is accepted today.

That said, I feel for YR fans if Pratt is that bad. I certainly understand your pain!

The thing that makes this sad to me is seeing yet another show just tossed into the hands of one of the same old, same old names. The fact that TPTB feel comfortable throwing the show into the recycling bin tells me that there's no real interest in improving any of this. It's more about trying something half-assed for Y&R until they can get another winner a la The Talk.

As always, the voice of reason. Exactly.

thank you CH.

You've already gotten what I think is a fair answer from some of us on how and why Ron and Pratt are very different, in some of our opinions anyway.

I can critique Ron Carlivati for forever and a day and trash the worst of his show, but the worst of his show is bad in a completely different way from what Chuck Pratt does. I can find one bad writer worse than another bad (or deeply, deeply flawed) writer. Just because some people may think Pratt is even worse doesn't mean they are giving anyone else a pass. It just means they have a different experience from you.

Pratt is far worse than Ron. What Ron does to a show can be deeply problematic but it is also fundamentally different.

Ron adores soaps, or rather his narrow-yet-broad idea of them, and is obsessed with that past as well as his own vision and ego. He is not without some good work or ideas in moderation, but if you let him off the leash with no checks and balances, he does what he's done to GH while behaving like an ass on social media.

Pratt hates soaps and everything about them. Comparing them is really apples and oranges, though, they are too different. And his work at GH with Guza was some of the worst of their shared tenure.

Oh I agree 100%

Pratt and Guza and JFP all are not fans of the genre they work in. Carlivati clearly is.

Guza, Pratt, Phelps. All of them worked for Monty and saw what charismatic actors and a creative vision can do for a daytime show. But none of them have her instincts. And they all have such disdain for their audience.

You've already gotten what I think is a fair answer from some of us on how and why Ron and Pratt are very different, in some of our opinions anyway.

I can critique Ron Carlivati for forever and a day and trash the worst of his show, but the worst of his show is bad in a completely different way from what Chuck Pratt does. I can find one bad writer worse than another bad (or deeply, deeply flawed) writer. Just because some people may think Pratt is even worse doesn't mean they are giving anyone else a pass. It just means they have a different experience from you.

Trash from Chicago City Dump vs Trash from NY City Dump. It's all still Trash!

Well, I can't say I'm all that shocked. Nothing daytime does anymore, but Chuck Pratt? Seriously? You can't tell me Chuck Pratt is the best Sony could get. I bet they didn't even give Kay Alden a call. I know the Bells have little power now, but they better do something or their family's show is going to be destroyed.

From what I've read Alden said she doesn't have a desire to be head writer. I dunno if that's true, but that's what Jamey Giddens was saying. He said she said it in an interview

Megan was a god send compared to Pratt. I would take Megan a thousand times over Pratt. Pratt was the butcher of AMC all he did was kill everyone in a sea of perpetual violence. All you saw was a haze of corpses every time you tuned into AMC during his tenure as head writer. I would say fans of the show should have been thankful he was only there for about a year, but considering that was all the time he needed to completely dismantle the show, I don't think he could have added any further insult to injury. No other head writer alienated fans more then Charles Pratt during his tenure on AMC.

Wow we agree

LOL

 

 

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— Mala Bhattacharjee (@badnecklace)

September 19, 2014

ChitHappens, boo, I love you but I don't understand you one bit right now. All this is completely and utterly irrelevant. IDGAF if RC is worse. We're not talking GH.

There is one, undeniable truth: The show, "lucky" enough until now, is about to sink to new levels and new era of complete destruction. We're going from generally non-destructive boredom to all hell about to break loose.

Yeah this is like asking someone if they want the needle or the chair, both are bad either way you slice it

Is there seriously a block feature on this board. I've looked for it but can't find it.

Thank Christ there seriously is. I only have a few active posters on ignore, but every time I make the mistake of clicking "read this post anyway" I remember why.

As for Pratt, I'll give him a chance like I do every new writer. Maybe he's learned some lessons along the way.

It has nothing to do with the topic. Talk about things Jean did wrong or anything that has to do with y and r. Pratts bad history as he destroyed amc is up for grabs but GH talk shouldn't be allowed in a thread that based solely on y and r head writer talk. Talk anything that relates to that how bad Pratt is or people u think should be head writers or vice versa. Again the same stupid I hate GH agenda gets brought into a post it doesn't need to be in

Hmmm. Can't be much worse than the circus that writes GH or the two who paint Daniel Jonas walls to dry on Days.