Christel has had times when she was okay. I liked her in the beginning (I think working closely with Rowell HELPED her), I liked her always with Michael Grazaidei, but she is a lazy actress and can't make bad material work. From beginning to end the relationship with Cane is a dud, so she's never been able to pull that off. I LOVED her when Cane was dead and she grew a backbone and was back with Daniel, but when that ended she went back to sucking.

ITA - She was perfectly cast as a boarding school educated teen and then the "scandalous" relationship with Daniel provided a lot of sparks. But, man, when she got with DG, it just didn't work on any level and the writing for Lily has been pathetic. I know a lot of the strong emotions towards CK come from the DS situation, which was handled poorly on so many fronts - mainly the PTB at Sony and Y&R. IF DS had never been hired, I doubt people would be completely hateful towards her. The VR situation, who really knows. Regardless, if Y&R is able to transition Lily into someone else's orbit, it will be for the best. It might make me not have to FF thru her stuff. But when I look at Y&R overall, she and Lily are hardly the worst things happening.

I stand corrected. Anyways the actress is good. CK only sucks because she is playing Lily. She is just miscast.

CK sucks because she's a mediocre actress not just because she's playing Lily.

I just saw the Hilary person on YT, and she is gorgeous an pretty impressive as an actress. She also has a nice screen presence.

She's a schemer too? I might have to check in. Any Canadians here I can PM about day aheads?

Damn Sharon is a monster right now!!!

uh yeah, still dont care bout Dylan and Chelsea!

off topic but WTH did soapnet stop airing Y&R?? it's been a couple weeks since I watched and went to tune in the other night...... don't know when i'll be able to watch it! am I missing anything??

Christel has had times when she was okay. I liked her in the beginning (I think working closely with Rowell HELPED her), I liked her always with Michael Grazaidei, but she is a lazy actress and can't make bad material work. From beginning to end the relationship with Cane is a dud, so she's never been able to pull that off. I LOVED her when Cane was dead and she grew a backbone and was back with Daniel, but when that ended she went back to sucking.

CK only began to suck as Lily when she decided to put her own spin on who she thought Lily should be as an adult...I read an article where she thought that Lily should be totally different from Dru. Chile naw! Dru was the most interesting thing about the Winters from the word go. Anyone with any sense would want their character to be as close to Dru as possible. Anyways, being totally different from Dru was fine when Dru was on. Because the writers and audience counted on Dru to drive the story and be entertaining for that family. But without her, Lily needs to be the entertainment if they are going to center every story that involves the Winters around her.

CK was never interesting as Lily even when VR was on...VR made all that work. As evidence of how dull it all is without her.

ITA - She was perfectly cast as a boarding school educated teen and then the "scandalous" relationship with Daniel provided a lot of sparks. But, man, when she got with DG, it just didn't work on any level and the writing for Lily has been pathetic. I know a lot of the strong emotions towards CK come from the DS situation, which was handled poorly on so many fronts - mainly the PTB at Sony and Y&R. IF DS had never been hired, I doubt people would be completely hateful towards her. The VR situation, who really knows. Regardless, if Y&R is able to transition Lily into someone else's orbit, it will be for the best. It might make me not have to FF thru her stuff. But when I look at Y&R overall, she and Lily are hardly the worst things happening.

I always thought CK was miscast. She never cam across as boarding school educated to me.

I do agree that the casting of DS caused issues. And most of that, for me, was I got a glimpse at what the character could be and going back to CK was a big disappointment. I don't think that many people are privy to how TPTB handled that situation. So I don't think that has much to do with it.

CK sucks because she's a mediocre actress not just because she's playing Lily.

I disagree. If she were playing someone other than Dru's daughter, she would have far less scrutiny. For example, if Olivia was her mother, then I would probably be perfectly fine with the character. But she isn't...and therein lies the problem. At least for me.

off topic but WTH did soapnet stop airing Y&R?? it's been a couple weeks since I watched and went to tune in the other night...... don't know when i'll be able to watch it! am I missing anything??

It's on TV Guide channel now.

Damn Sharon is a monster right now!!!

uh yeah, still dont care bout Dylan and Chelsea!

Still don't understand why Dylan and Chelsea are in a story together.

It moved from SoapNet to TVGN last month.

Just read on Twitter that Josh Griffith is on the way out.

Just read on Twitter that Josh Griffith is on the way out.

Woo Hoo!!!

I just stumbled upon the gossip vine of Griffith's contract possibly not being renewed...due to a leave of absence following a mental breakdown of sorts allegedly. In that case, wishing Griffith good health and good luck while hoping for a hire more familiar with Y&R history.

Kay Alden???

I disagree. If she were playing someone other than Dru's daughter, she would have far less scrutiny. For example, if Olivia was her mother, then I would probably be perfectly fine with the character. But she isn't...and therein lies the problem. At least for me.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I didn't like her during her original run and I dont like her acting style in general. There are a couple of actresses that have passed through daytime with the same acting style that I didn't like either. Her valley voice is annoying and she tends to screech when its time to show some emotion.

We'll have to agree to disagree because I didn't like her during her original run and I dont like her acting style in general. There are a couple of actresses that have passed through daytime with the same acting style that I didn't like either. Her valley voice is annoying and she tends to screech when its time to show some emotion.

I can't argue with the screeching whenever emotion is called for...it's true.

Bwahaha! Did I just see Dylan pull the world's most pristine baby -- born with a white blankie already around him apparently -- from beneath Chelsea's spotless white wedding dress?!

I swear, Melissa "Mahogany" Egan is the most spray-tanned human in soaps.