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  1. BH My esteem for Camille went down a couple of notches when she made fun of LVP's 'bad teeth and breath'. Camille is not really that close with LVP. Despite S1, Camille and Kyle are now pretty close friends. Also, Camille supported Adrienne in S3, and did that whole "No, you dont own Sur" thing that failed. I appreciate that Camille has always formed her own opinion about people, however, which is why the mean girl behaviour this episode surprised me. Maybe Camille wanted to fit in with the group, distract them from what she probably senses is Rinna's growing animosity towards her. Rinna, knowing that Puppygate has not panned out as planned, is looking for a new target. And currently that is Camille and her dislike of Dorit. (What is it with everybody this season defending poor, lying Dorit??). Of course Camille plays into Rinna's hands next week with her defence if Kavanaugh. A stupid move, and you know her BFF Kyle won't lift a finger to help.
  2. For somebody who prides herself on having brains, Bethenny looked a damn fool opening her big mouth and spilling the beans on her BFFs Kyle and Rinna. She exposed them knowing BH is the one show where everybody pretends to be the innocent victim! Her wannabe-Sopranos language about LVP ("if they're trying to put her in the ground, and there is one finger moving, you better make sure she's dead, and she ain't") was ugly, violent and misogynistic. She wanted to sound boss but looked ridiculous It's a TV reality show for heaven's sake, not a mob shootout. This really highlights how much Bethenny, Kyle and Rinna despise LVP. They think she is blocking them from being the most beloved HWs in the history of RH and needs to be erased. Girls, it's not LVP -- she seems ready to quit BH anyway -- the problem is YOU ! ETA: I wonder if Bethenny blurted all this out because she wanted to kill the LVP-Kyle friendship and any chance of their reuniting once and for all.
  3. Your hard work is appreciated Errol! Thank you for keeping this place ticking along. It is a home away from home!
  4. @Vee it's not just you. I hope it gets fixed soon. I am having SON withdrawal symptoms. 

    1. dragonflies


      So glad it's back up. Serious withdrawls here lol

  5. Just leaving this here in advance of tonight's 'scintillating' BH episode. We could be talking about this RL drama, but no. Instead we will get hours of glam-squading before these hoes sit down to stare at each other's greasily-contoured faces. Dale is amazing. I love her gorgeous, Southern, velvety-glove-hiding-a-fist-of-steel speaking voice. She looks so vibrant and naughty. I think she could definitely play the game with these RHONY women. And I couldn't tell if Ramona purposely ignored her, or if she can barely make out faces in her permanent Pinot buzz. I saw on Twitter something trending about asking Andy to have Dale and Mama Dee on WWHL as guests together. I think that would be fabulous! BTW, I just finished re-watching S3 of Dallas. The first 8 episodes could have been condensed into 3, but after that it was FIRE. I really hope the cast returns intact this season, including my three faves Kameron, Cary and D'Andra (which... I know. Weird mix. The last two are highly controversial. D'Andra was a neurotic, jealous, Freudian mess last year but I can't help but find her fascinating). And yeah, Mama Dee's pot-stirring Tammy Faye Bakker ass needs to be there, too! And Sonja is LOVE this season. She has finally come into her own.
  6. Omg!! Congratulations!! You MUST report back on all the tea she spills! Money cant buy you claaaa ASS! Elegance is learned. MAH FRIEND!
  7. IA. I felt warm and happy after watching this episode (BETHENNY CROYING ). I don't think I have ever seen Sonja this down-to-earth, carefree and comfortable with herself. Next week should be an interesting counterpoint to that. I never know whether Bethenny's grief is performative or whether she can only truly express sadness by leaning into it and feeling all the feels. One thing is for sure: Bethenny is a serial dater. She cannot be without a guy in her life, even while she mourns another. I don't think I have ever known her to be fully single on RHONY. Um, is Tinsley contract-stipulated to have Dale show up at least once an episode?! Not that I mind --- Dale is so thirsty this season but I love her presence anyway! She even silently suffered through Ramona blanking her just for some camera-time! Seeing her interact with Sonja and Dorinda makes me feel she would be a better fit on this show than Tinsley herself. Having said that, Tins had a pretty decent episode by her meh-ish standards. Good to now about the jaw botox! I grind my teeth in my sleep when I'm stressed. Melinda omg Dorinda's country twin! Crazy how they sound exactly alike too. I absolutely loved her. She is definitely the real deal. I am back to loving Dorinda again after this episode. The crazy decorations. The willingness to pander to the Countess's demands. Dorinda really wants their friendship back again and it broke my heart a little to see Luann so uppity. She threw away a lot of audience goodwill this episode.
  8. Wow. What a genius move. Taylor would be perfect for the OC! She's got the neuroses but she's no pushover either. Neither Tamra nor Shannon would be able to manipulate or intimidate her. She is the original grifter, TayShanna, after all! And she has friends in high Calabasan places (Linda Thompson, for example). P.s.: OC only started filming a month ago so there is definitely time to add a new HW. What have they got to lose? Last season was slow as molasses until they hit Jamaica.
  9. I liked the chemistry between MM and GT for sure, though I wasnt sure whether I could buy their friendship, given that they were two females who gravitated towards men and seemed to distrust most women! Nevertheless, it did reveal an added layer to Phyllis nurturing this friendship. And nurturing is not a word I would usually associate with her! That's a really good observation. And that "with it," boss personality is somebody I would probably enjoy watching more. Soaps already have a surfeit of loons.
  10. This. Not every character has to be related to a clan. Ironic as it sounds, given William J Bell's penchant for semi-incestuous relationships, he was fine on Y&R with standalone characters rolling into town. Victor was a standalone character back in the day. Brad Carlton too.
  11. I'd keep Arturo over Kevin tbh.
  12. This has been an absolutely epic thread, I've been devouring it day by day like a bowl of popcorn! I dont know quite how to react to the news. Michelle Stafford was like the Maurice Benard of Y&R at one point. She ate up the show onscreen and off. I never thought Gina Tognoni was quite Phyllis (though when she started, she purposely aped some of MS's own ticks and did it credibly). I think it's because Phyllis morphed from being a character created by Bill Bell to an extension of MS's own heightened persona. So it makes sense that she's coming back. She is really the only one who can embody her. Tbh Phyllis the character could depart Genoa City tomorrow and for me it would be a case of out of sight, out of mind.
  13. WHY?? Nobody has missed his presence on the canvas, and absolutely nobody is clamouring for his return. Unlike say oh Mishael Morgan! Followed by Eileen Davidson. Are Michael and Lauren even main cast anymore? No reason to bring on another Fisher Baldwin when the family is barely existent as is.
  14. My feelings exactly. When Dorit was pretend-crying at the lunch, I literally cringed. There is not a sincere bone in that woman's body. Everything is so performative and false -- including this entire dog 'storyline.' The one question nobody is asking is, why would LVP jeopardize her longstanding friendship with PK just to make this a thing? It makes no sense. And speaking of performative, when Kyle posed her fuschia-pink Birkin on LVP's countertop -- so the cameras could get a good look at it -- all I could think was, is this one of the Birkin bags LVP gifted Kyle after the burglary? I have never seen LVP so angry on this show, not even when Brandi turned on her. Kyle was very proud of herself for confronting LVP -- she is too dumb to see how Rinna and the others pumped her up to go over to Villa Rosa and prove her worth to them. Ken's vibrating "Goodbye, Kyle" was a perfect meme for this season. The once-fabulous essence of the show has been destroyed. Most of the women clearly dont care for each other. At least we can understand the heat of anger between Dorinda and Luann on NY. It is real. These BH chicks' interactions with each other are so contrived and impersonal. I wouldn't be shocked if Rinna whispered this story to ROL, as a Plan B when the initial takedown failed. We are at episode 8. What else are these fools going to offer us for another 10 episodes? Camille's wedding, the fires, and the France trip could easily have been edited down to 5 shows. I dont know if I can bear 10 episodes of snarling about LVP or Rinna talking over her daughter with bulimia in order to deflect from her exercising 5 hours a day and not eating solids! Honestly, I would love it if LVP started hanging out with Nicollette Sheridan, Joan Collins and Naomi Campbell. The Brit Babes coming for Rinna, Erika, Kyle, Teddi and Dorit's jobs!
  15. Nene is literally self imploding all over social media. I think she sees the writing on the wall (that Bravo is lukewarm about keeping her on the show) and she is panicking. The network is sniffing around a different demo and wants to get rid of some of its OG's this year. We saw how Vicki was treated when OC filming started a few weeks back. The LVP takedown could also be production mandated. I was sad to see so little Karen in the Potomac trailer. Nene has the biggest per-episode salary of any of the OGs, apparently. Given that fans have stopped clamouring for her, Bravo might be looking to offload that particular expense. Nene's downfall is largely by her own hand, though. Verbally abusing an audience member. Let go from some TV projects for her attitude. Her irrational jealousy of anybody who she feels is stealing her spotlight. The way she has treated Greg is appalling. I wonder if she has looked in the mirror and admitted to herself that she triggered this backlash. Not Porsha, not Kenya, not Kandi nor Cynthia.
  16. I was just going to say... they could have filmed the text messages and called it a day!
  17. I third that! Happy 9th! I'm so glad that @Cheap21 started this thread! The Housewives are basically my soaps now that my connection to Daytime is loosening. I personally love this thread and everyone who contributes and has contributed to it. Agreed on everything. I think Luann is close to getting haughty about the wrong Dorinda done her, but she is definitely in the right after the petty way Dorinda treated her at her own show. And all because of.... Jovani?? I think Dorinda is upset that Lu got into cabareting and doesn't need her as much anymore. I think they were each other's support system to an extent. I love Barbara and hope she stays in Luann-Season-7-FOH capacity, appearing in almost every episode. I think she's a keeper thus far. Sonja has blossomed so far without the weight of Grey Gardens on her shoulders! Lol I desperately want a gif of that goblin close-up and Ramona's words "it looks like Bethenny CROYING."
  18. I actually felt sorry for Ramona. This is the dating pool in Manhattan for that age bracket: Tom D'Agostino, Harry Dubin and this pretentious blowhard. He almost got married 8 times?? I hope those women are respecting themselves more these days. I suspect Scott has a great life with girlfriends in Chicago and Tinsley in NYC who can promote Coupon Cabin every once in a while. I dont think he wants to marry her though. Why lose that lifestyle? I also dont think she wants to move her life to Chicago. Solid episode. Sonja still makes my day. And I liked Dorinda a lot more, until she threw Barbara out of her apartment (Barbara is right, it needs a repaint and a revamp). Dorinda really wants to get her closeness back with Luann but doesn't want to admit to the heckling and some kind of weird resentment Dorinda seems to have. What's also sad is that Luann seems to have moved on. I was really rooting for their friendship but each side is not willing to compromise.
  19. Agreed about Barbara. She is the real deal, and I think it helps that she's known these women for years and runs her own business. The latter grounds her in terms of connecting with the audience. She seems like an authentic member of the cast and I dont know why she didn't get an apple. Sonja was MVP this episode. Warm, empathetic, incisive. I love her VTs and just the way she seems to dance through every event. I also loved what she wore to the clam bake. Ramona is being extra with her assholery this year. It's such a contrast with seasons 3 and 4 when she sat back and let The Evil of Jill manifest itself. She did the franchise a service back then, but she's doing herself no favors now.
  20. On point as always. Especially your last sentence. BH is the Olivia Jade of the Bravo RHs. She's pretending to be on the rowing team and partying on the USC Board of Trustees yacht while more deserving students are studying for their midterms and holding down part-time jobs. The women of BH (as evidenced by Rinna's latest Tweet) think they are hot [!@#$%^&*] and kind of sneery about other franchises. But NJ had one of its best seasons in years, NYC is giving us true tea and real-life drama -- and Potomac just threw down an epic trailer! BH is mediocre, lazy and lying to the audience about what is really going on. I wish they did have the fear of cancellation in them! Make no mistake, I blame ALL the BH HWs for this. LVP should never have started this pot-stirring knowing the others are champing at the bit to come for her. I'm sure she thought it was a win-win with somebody as skin-crawlingly awful as Dorit (to paraphrase Camille. Same, girl, same). The focus on this instead of REAL stuff drives me insane. At one point early in the episode, Kyle tells Mauricio she has to run to a meeting at her store. Alene Too was shuttered months ago! Why aren't we talking about this? I would put it down to ATL having a cast that didn't quite gel with the audience this season, as well as the amazing viral marketing campaign which whet our appetites for BH for months beforehand. We waited for that first episode with baited breath! Like @alwaysAMC I too would be interested in seeing the ratings progression as the season rolls on. I don't know if it can hold up, but I've been wrong before. NJ's ratings makes me super happy!
  21. Something else concerning Potomac. Michael's 'issue' is right out there for all to see. Bet the Darbeys would have loved to work a deal with Bravo to keep it behind closed doors, and I bet Bravo told them "We can show anything we want." It makes me wonder if the BH women have different contracts from the rest of the franchise. Contracts where they can block Bravo from showing or talking about certain things. Maybe that explains why we have all this scripted petty nonsense the last few years instead of actual stuff that is happening. Anyway. I am very curious how Ashley, Miss IAmOpenAboutEverythingWhyArentYouKaren, tries to dress up what happened between Michael and the cameraman. I cant stand Gizelle but I admit I giggled when she said "He likes big butts. And I cannot lie."
  22. Same. She was such a bitch to Monique in particular, and when it came to Karen, always played both sides. However, I am not losing sleep over her missing as Katie is back and this season looks like fire!! Ashley still as messy as ever. My only complaint is not enough Karen in the trailer!
  23. For the life of me, I cannot understand why the producers of BH eschewed organic, REAL drama in the form of Dorit getting doorstepped by pissed-off creditors, Mauricio's lawsuit (from a shady central African dictator, so I'm leaning towards Mo a bit on that one), or Tom's lawsuit which has meant a sharp reduction in Erika's expenses. Heck, let's talk about the LVP lawsuits from last year. Instead, they thought Dog-gate was the better idea?? This is like last season's fuckery all over again. Sometimes the BH women are so arrogant about their standing in the RH pecking order that I wish Bravo would cancel the show on their under-performing asses! No way would NYC or OC be able to get away with sweeping their scandals under the rug. NYC has thrived because it talks about those things openly, even when it embarrasses or humbles them (Luann). I remember the early seasons when we had real-life dark secrets exposed, juicy scandals, Hollywood cover-ups,and the richies mixing up with the wannabes. Now the show is constructed in Erika Jayne's image: there is a lot of glammed contrivance, and nobody dare exert themselves lest they loosen a hair extension. And despite having just dissed Erika above, I do agree with you about Erika Girardi. There has been something fun and down-to-earth about her the last few episodes. I cannot dislike Erika completely (unlike Rinna or Dorit), and I think it is because of these moments. I especially enjoy her wily understanding of human nature, when she drops the wannabe cool-girl script. And in another shocking moment...I actually enjoyed the scenes of Kyle dropping off her daughter at GWU. It was real-life, and at least the Umanskys are not encouraging their daughters to be 'models' or Instagram influencers (*cough*). And while I really like Denise, I think her fiance Aaron sounds like a bit of a new-age con-man. *hides* NJ: Sad it is over. I had a fondness and emotional investment in the show this year. Margaret is definitely in my Top 5 HWs now. There was lightness and humor to the season, too. And when they brought out the kiddie car for Andy at the end, I was actually moved, especially at the parenting advice they gave him. You felt they were really thrilled for him. NY: Felt like I was watching Season 2 RHONY with the focus on the Hamptons and Ramona's poor tennis game! I wonder if Mario saw that she hired his younger mini-me to give her lessons? Ramona and Dorinda may hate Luann, but imo she is the emotional centre of the show. I usually adore Ramona and Dorinda, but wow they are being so hateful. Dorinda is so mean and self-pitying. She is snarly because she thinks Luann exposed her drinking problem in Cartegena. Girl, YOU exposed your alcohol/substance abuse all by your lonesome! And speaking of substances, I suspect that is what is happening to Ramona's left nostril.
  24. Gretchen's face has hit Peak Barbie in terms of the work she's had done. And Slade is still as cringe as ever. Congrats to them both, I guess. That entire reel reeks of two people who would love this pregnancy to be showcased on RHOC.
  25. Like so many of you, I was blown away by his charismatic turn as CC Capwell. Both the character and JA seemed like forces of nature! This is sad news indeed. May he rest in peace. (OT but it really means a lot to know that members of the SB cast remained in touch over 25 years after the show's cancellation).
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