I'm sure that Jill Farren Phelps will be FINE. She has alot of actors who love her. I spoke with her a few years ago and she is a lovely, smart, intelligent woman. Sure she can probably be a bitch, but that's the job of an Executive Producer.

How does he know nothing about soaps? I know some don't like him, but come on.....

Maybe Franco will get JFP a gig on one of his movies or partner with her to produce a tv show or movie.

Either way, I'm not holding my breath.

I'm sure that Jill Farren Phelps will be FINE. She has alot of actors who love her. I spoke with her a few years ago and she is a lovely, smart, intelligent woman. Sure she can probably be a bitch, but that's the job of an Executive Producer.

I admit I get uncomfortable whenever people deem her a bitch. It does go into the whole thing about a woman being a bitch.

I admit I get uncomfortable whenever people deem her a bitch. It does go into the whole thing about a woman being a bitch.

Save your feminism for a woman who doesn't mistreat her female employees and support misogynistic storytelling in a predominantly female genre. The heffa's a bitch!

I call men by the term bitch also. There are a few things over the years, that JFP did that I appreciated, but the negative column is a lot longer than the positive.

Save your feminism for a woman who doesn't mistreat her female employees and support misogynistic storytelling in a predominantly female genre. The heffa's a bitch!

And the bitch is a heffa!

Save your feminism for a woman who doesn't mistreat her female employees and support misogynistic storytelling in a predominantly female genre. The heffa's a bitch!

In the soap opera genre though... no female EP really fits that description.

Normally I would agree with EricMontreal -- but then I think of her trying to edge out Maeve Kincaid on GL... causing Beverlee McKinsey to up and leave the show... firing the lady who played Cassie on OLTL when she fell pregnant... sidelining Genie Francis on GH in favour of the TG/MB/SB triumverate. Sometimes I don;'t know what to think about JFP. She has so many actors who adore her, declare their undying love to her -- but then we have these misogynistic moves. Would the real JFP please stand up?

Normally I would agree with EricMontreal -- but then I think of her trying to edge out Maeve Kincaid on GL... causing Beverlee McKinsey to up and leave the show... firing the lady who played Cassie on OLTL when she fell pregnant... sidelining Genie Francis on GH in favour of the TG/MB/SB triumverate. Sometimes I don;'t know what to think about JFP. She has so many actors who adore her, declare their undying love to her -- but then we have these misogynistic moves. Would the real JFP please stand up?

Every producer has actors who love them.

Regarding misogyny, beyond how she treats actors, it's also the storytelling on her shows. They generally always destroy women, demean them, and only write for women as shrews or as heroines in bad romance novels.

This discussion on how JFP treats her female employees in comparison to her male ones makes me wonder if she is worse or equal to how Gloria Monty used to treat HER female employees compared to her male ones, because there were certainly a few (Genie Francis, Denise Alexander, Finola Hughes) who left under negative circumstances.

Of course, in regards to storytelling, with the possible (and certainly noteworthy) exception of some of Laura's behavior after Luke raped her, it seems to me (as someone who has never watched GH regularly and who wasn't born until 1989) that women on her shows were still far stronger than the ones depicted under JFP (a particularly good example of a strong GM female would be Anna Devane).

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Normally I would agree with EricMontreal -- but then I think of her trying to edge out Maeve Kincaid on GL... causing Beverlee McKinsey to up and leave the show... firing the lady who played Cassie on OLTL when she fell pregnant... sidelining Genie Francis on GH in favour of the TG/MB/SB triumverate. Sometimes I don;'t know what to think about JFP. She has so many actors who adore her, declare their undying love to her -- but then we have these misogynistic moves. Would the real JFP please stand up?

Corporate America is filled with women who hate other women. (I could point out some examples in politics but I suspect it would derail this thread terribly.) JFP strikes me as that kind of woman: self-serving, low-down and 100% a consumer of the outdated ideal of masculine power. YMMV, whether or not that earns her the title of bitch.

Normally I would agree with EricMontreal -- but then I think of her trying to edge out Maeve Kincaid on GL... causing Beverlee McKinsey to up and leave the show... firing the lady who played Cassie on OLTL when she fell pregnant... sidelining Genie Francis on GH in favour of the TG/MB/SB triumverate. Sometimes I don;'t know what to think about JFP. She has so many actors who adore her, declare their undying love to her -- but then we have these misogynistic moves. Would the real JFP please stand up?

Unfortunately, I think that is the real JFP. A great, supportive champion for the people she likes or has use for -- and a dismissive, stone cold, unrepentant bitch to the people she doesn't.

Of course, in regards to storytelling, with the possible (and certainly noteworthy) exception of some of Laura's behavior after Luke raped her, it seems to me (as someone who has never watched GH regularly and who wasn't born until 1989) that women on her shows were still far stronger than the ones depicted under JFP (a particularly good example of a strong GM female would be Anna Devane).

Exactly. BITD, GH's females were "kick-ass," to put it blunty. Plus, there's the simple fact that Gloria Monty's GH simply was a better, more entertaining show. (Whether or not her vision for GH was in keeping with the Hursleys', I'll leave that open to y'all.) So, yes, Gloria Monty was a bitch like JFP is a bitch, but GM was a bitch I could respect because, more often than not, she delivered.

Edited December 5, 201114 yr by Khan