23 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

 

 

Does anyone know the reason Beverlee McKenzie had brown hair during this period?  I believe she kept this color for nearly a year, before returning to her more usual blonde color.   Was she in a play or something that required a different hair color?   Just wondering . . .

On 10/6/2022 at 4:25 AM, MarlandFan said:

Great actor, wrong part.  And the timing for his character was bad because headwriter Doug Marland passed away before he could guide the Royce multiple personality story to its natural conclusion.  Between Neal's untimely death and the anti-climactic way Lucinda discovered Neal and Royce were her half-siblings, the storyline kept missing the mark.  And, while beautiful, the actress playing Emily (Royce's love interest) never generated any heat with her male co-stars.  That being said, Royce eventually left the canvas to focus on his emotional healing AND to spare Emily any future hurt that she was certainly destined to experience by being married to him.

So Royce was Marland's chance to tell the Carrie Todd story the way he wanted?

1 hour ago, SAPOUNOPERA said:

So Royce was Marland's chance to tell the Carrie Todd story the way he wanted?

 

  On 10/5/2022 at 8:25 PM, MarlandFan said:

Great actor, wrong part.  And the timing for his character was bad because headwriter Doug Marland passed away before he could guide the Royce multiple personality story to its natural conclusion.  Between Neal's untimely death and the anti-climactic way Lucinda discovered Neal and Royce were her half-siblings, the storyline kept missing the mark.  And, while beautiful, the actress playing Emily (Royce's love interest) never generated any heat with her male co-stars.  That being said, Royce eventually left the canvas to focus on his emotional healing AND to spare Emily any future hurt that she was certainly destined to experience by being married to him.

So, yes, was Marland trying to fix what GL EP Potter had prevented his doing with the complete "3 Carries" storyline with Jane Elliot? Did he make Royce into another chance at it?

On 9/29/2022 at 7:51 PM, Mitch64 said:

He had issues with Bob and his son ran against Tom for D.A. and also was the prosecutor for Dee during John's "murder" trial (as dumb as it was to have a murder trial with no corpse...this was really good and the Dobson's best work on the show.) But you have to understand Chris and Nancy were obscured so Wagner left, and then the put poor DM on recurring to just disappear so Bob and Tom were the only Hughes in town.

The day Whit was murdered was the day Fulton came back to the show to discover his body, or as Fulton said, "I came back to trip over ole' dead Whit!"  It would be interesting to see again. The show was really good and fun then, the real Lisa returned to prance around town in big hats and furs dramatically looking for the murderer of her husband and trying to help and but her nose into her step kids lives,  annoying Whit bit the dust, Kim and Bob were moving towards each other and the return of Nancy and Chris coming..all more lighthearted, fun and admittedly campy and free wheeling then Marland would do (not a critique on DM.)

 

Thank you for the historical insight for this much appreciated. LOL I guess I didn’t realize one of the pre-Mark Pinter Brians was the crazed prosecutor for Dee’s trial lol.

The bits and pieces I’ve seen of 1983 and 1984 for ATWT actual do feel fun and strong although there’s a lot guessing who is who especially when it came the muddled plots involving Cal, Diana, Frank, Maggie, the introduction of Stewart Cushing etc. Didn’t strike me as a messy show as I thought it was before Marland arrived, but of course it wasn’t at the traditional ATWT at all either. 

Clips 3/1984-5/1984  Featuring Diana, Ariel, Betsy. Steve, Frank, Maggie, Whit, Margo, Tom, Craig, Marcy, Karen, Charmaine and Lyla.

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7 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Clips 3/1984-5/1984  Featuring Diana, Ariel, Betsy. Steve, Frank, Maggie, Whit, Margo, Tom, Craig, Marcy, Karen, Charmaine and Lyla.

I LOVED "Aunt" Charmaine...and she just disappeared when Lisa returned. Would have loved to see her and Fulton's Lisa team up. Karen and Ariel were fun too, and I wished Diana and Maggie stuck around for Marland.

6 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

I LOVED "Aunt" Charmaine...and she just disappeared when Lisa returned. Would have loved to see her and Fulton's Lisa team up. Karen and Ariel were fun too, and I wished Diana and Maggie stuck around for Marland.

Marland would've gotten Maggie. Not so sure about complex bad girls like Karen, Diana and Ariel. I can't picture those gals hanging out at the Snyder farm. And fawning over Princess Lilly. I've seen very little of Aunt Charmaine. What little i've seen i like.

Edited October 8, 20223 yr by victoria foxton

I'm still confused about whether Marland wrote out Maggie. The character was rarely if ever mentioned during his tenure.

6 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I'm still confused about whether Marland wrote out Maggie. The character was rarely if ever mentioned during his tenure.

Weird since Doug kept the rest of Maggie's relatives. Also, Doug loved mentioning and bringing back past characters for short runs. I could totally see Maggie and Frank fitting in quite nicely in the Marland era.

Was Maggie still on the canvas when Cal Randolph and Marie Kovacs were murdered? I often wonder about the evolution of that story? Did it begin with one possible conclusion and end another way?

This is why interviewing someone like a Susan Bedsow-Horgan would be invaluable, she might be able to clarify the timeline. There was a time after the Dobsons, before Marland that there was a team doing the writing. It would be good to know how long that period lasted and what Wes the comings and goings at that time and who was making the decisions during that time. Like, was that in-between period used by execs to trim the cast?

 

2 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Marland would've gotten Maggie. Not so sure about complex bad girls like Karen, Diana and Ariel. I can't picture those gals hanging out at the Snyder farm. And fawning over Princess Lilly. I've seen very little of Aunt Charmaine. What little i've seen i like.

I feel like he got Meg Snyder who could be fairly complex at times but that may have been due to knowing the actress prior to her arrival.

Can someone please interview SBH already? And also, why doesn’t anyone ask more of these actors if they have some of their old episodes on video? It could help fill in the blanks.

What about Charles and Patti Dizenzo? When’s the last time anybody interviewed them?

Edited October 8, 20223 yr by DramatistDreamer

 

16 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Was Maggie still on the canvas when Cal Randolph and Marie Kovacs were murdered? I often wonder about the evolution of that story? Did it begin with one possible conclusion and end another way?

No, Maggie and Frank left earlier. Maggie got a bit dull at the end with catching the typical soap female baby fever. Marie and Cal were murdered off first as they were expendable...(Lisa had buddied Cal and Fulton wanted something to happen between them...and wanted to wear black after he was dead but they said no...there was no romance between them and she said, "Well, you don't know what happened in the broom closet!" )

I agree that Diana would never make over Lilly, Karen would befriend to achieve a goal and Ariel would have hilarious comments about Lily....she started functioning as a bitchy greek chorus in Oakdale at the end.

 

18 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

 

Julianne Moore is more positive about her soap experience than most, but even so, I was glad the interviewer pushed back on her comment that "I got to go there and just be terrible."

I don't know if anyone post these on here but I found it fascinating! 

Now this was an ingenious way of promoting the daytime dramas on The Price is Right. 

Some CBS Daytime promos from 1984 that were recently uploaded