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I've fallen down the rabbit hole of looking at ratings, EP, HW, time slot history for CBS's daytime dramas. For As the World Turns, I looked through 1978/1979 (the year they lost #1) to 1994/1995 (the year of OJ and P&G's EP swap) and I compiled this history.

 

1978/1979: 8.2 (4th). EP change from Joe Willmore to Joe Rothenberger in December 1978. HW change from Robert Soderberg and Edith Sommer to Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt in December 1978.

1979/1980: 7.9 (6th). HW change from Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt to Douglas Marland in Fall 1979. HW change from Douglas Marland to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in December 1979. EP change from Joe Rothenberger to Fred Bartholomew in early 1980. Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on February 4, 1980.

1980/1981: 7.9 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Paul Roberts in April 1981. Time slot change from 2 pm ET to 1:30 pm ET on June 8, 1981. HW change from Paul Roberts to Tom King and K.C. Collier in August 1981.

1981/1982: 7.4 (tied w/ Y&R for 5th). EP change from Fred Bartholomew to Mary-Ellis Bunim in October 1981. HW change from Tom King and K.C. Collier to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in January 1982.

1982/1983: 7.6 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Carolyn Franz and John Saffron in May 1983.

1983/1984: 7.9 (6th). Co-HW change from Carolyn Franz to Tom King in December 1983. Co-HW change from John Saffron to Millee Taggart in April 1984.

1984/1985: 7.1 (tied w/ Days for 6th): EP change from Mary-Ellis Bunim to Robert Calhoun in October 1984. HW change from Tom King and Millee Taggart to Cynthia Benjamin and Susan Bedsow Horgan in November 1984. Susan Bedsow Horgan becomes sole HW in February 1985.

1985/1986: 6.7 (7th): HW change from Susan Bedsow Horgan to Douglas Marland in September 1985.

1986/1987: 7.0 (tied w/ All My Children and Days for 4th). Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on March 23, 1987.

1987/1988: 6.6 (6th). Writer's strike March-August 1988.

1988/1989: 6.4 (6th). EP change from Robert Calhoun to Laurence Caso in October 1988.

1989/1990: 5.8 (5th)

1990/1991: 5.9 (4th)

1991/1992: 5.8 (tied w/ General Hospital for 3rd)

1992/1993: 5.7 (5th). Douglas Marland passes away March 6, 1993. Juliet Law Packer and Richard Backus become HWs.

1993/1994: 5.8 (5th)

1994/1995: 5.1 (7th). January 1995 co-HW change from Richard Backus to Garin Wolf and Richard Culliton. EP change from Laurence Caso to John Valente in May 1995.

 

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Some sad news that I just discovered: Mel Winkler, who portrayed the first Leonard Franklin, father of Detective Roy Franklin (Count Stovall) passed away last week. He was wonderful in the few scenes that he had on the show and honestly, ATWT should have developed Roy's family because of Stovall, Winkler and Novella Nelson alone.  

 

https://www.etonline.com/mel-winkler-devil-in-a-blue-dress-actor-dead-at-78-147976

 

 

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2 hours ago, kalbir said:

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of looking at ratings, EP, HW, time slot history for CBS's daytime dramas. For As the World Turns, I looked through 1978/1979 (the year they lost #1) to 1994/1995 (the year of OJ and P&G's EP swap) and I compiled this history.

 

1978/1979: 8.2 (4th). EP change from Joe Willmore to Joe Rothenberger in December 1978. HW change from Robert Soderberg and Edith Sommer to Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt in December 1978.

1979/1980: 7.9 (6th). HW change from Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt to Douglas Marland in Fall 1979. HW change from Douglas Marland to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in December 1979. EP change from Joe Rothenberger to Fred Bartholomew in early 1980. Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on February 4, 1980.

1980/1981: 7.9 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Paul Roberts in April 1981. Time slot change from 2 pm ET to 1:30 pm ET on June 8, 1981. HW change from Paul Roberts to Tom King and K.C. Collier in August 1981.

1981/1982: 7.4 (tied w/ Y&R for 5th). EP change from Fred Bartholomew to Mary-Ellis Bunim in October 1981. HW change from Tom King and K.C. Collier to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in January 1982.

1982/1983: 7.6 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Carolyn Franz and John Saffron in May 1983.

1983/1984: 7.9 (6th). Co-HW change from Carolyn Franz to Tom King in December 1983. Co-HW change from John Saffron to Millee Taggart in April 1984.

1984/1985: 7.1 (tied w/ Days for 6th): EP change from Mary-Ellis Bunim to Robert Calhoun in October 1984. HW change from Tom King and Millee Taggart to Cynthia Benjamin and Susan Bedsow Horgan in November 1984. Susan Bedsow Horgan becomes sole HW in February 1985.

1985/1986: 6.7 (7th): HW change from Susan Bedsow Horgan to Douglas Marland in September 1985.

1986/1987: 7.0 (tied w/ All My Children and Days for 4th). Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on March 23, 1987.

1987/1988: 6.6 (6th). Writer's strike March-August 1988.

1988/1989: 6.4 (6th). EP change from Robert Calhoun to Laurence Caso in October 1988.

1989/1990: 5.8 (5th)

1990/1991: 5.9 (4th)

1991/1992: 5.8 (tied w/ General Hospital for 3rd)

1992/1993: 5.7 (5th). Douglas Marland passes away March 6, 1993. Juliet Law Packer and Richard Backus become HWs.

1993/1994: 5.8 (5th)

1994/1995: 5.1 (7th). January 1995 co-HW change from Richard Backus to Garin Wolf and Richard Culliton. EP change from Laurence Caso to John Valente in May 1995.

 

I wonder what ATWT would've looked like in the early 80s had Marland stayed until 1993?

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3 hours ago, kalbir said:

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of looking at ratings, EP, HW, time slot history for CBS's daytime dramas. For As the World Turns, I looked through 1978/1979 (the year they lost #1) to 1994/1995 (the year of OJ and P&G's EP swap) and I compiled this history.

 

1978/1979: 8.2 (4th). EP change from Joe Willmore to Joe Rothenberger in December 1978. HW change from Robert Soderberg and Edith Sommer to Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt in December 1978.

1979/1980: 7.9 (6th). HW change from Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt to Douglas Marland in Fall 1979. HW change from Douglas Marland to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in December 1979. EP change from Joe Rothenberger to Fred Bartholomew in early 1980. Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on February 4, 1980.

1980/1981: 7.9 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Paul Roberts in April 1981. Time slot change from 2 pm ET to 1:30 pm ET on June 8, 1981. HW change from Paul Roberts to Tom King and K.C. Collier in August 1981.

1981/1982: 7.4 (tied w/ Y&R for 5th). EP change from Fred Bartholomew to Mary-Ellis Bunim in October 1981. HW change from Tom King and K.C. Collier to Jerome and Bridget Dobson in January 1982.

1982/1983: 7.6 (5th). HW change from Jerome and Bridget Dobson to Carolyn Franz and John Saffron in May 1983.

1983/1984: 7.9 (6th). Co-HW change from Carolyn Franz to Tom King in December 1983. Co-HW change from John Saffron to Millee Taggart in April 1984.

1984/1985: 7.1 (tied w/ Days for 6th): EP change from Mary-Ellis Bunim to Robert Calhoun in October 1984. HW change from Tom King and Millee Taggart to Cynthia Benjamin and Susan Bedsow Horgan in November 1984. Susan Bedsow Horgan becomes sole HW in February 1985.

1985/1986: 6.7 (7th): HW change from Susan Bedsow Horgan to Douglas Marland in September 1985.

1986/1987: 7.0 (tied w/ All My Children and Days for 4th). Time slot change from 1:30 pm ET to 2 pm ET on March 23, 1987.

1987/1988: 6.6 (6th). Writer's strike March-August 1988.

1988/1989: 6.4 (6th). EP change from Robert Calhoun to Laurence Caso in October 1988.

1989/1990: 5.8 (5th)

1990/1991: 5.9 (4th)

1991/1992: 5.8 (tied w/ General Hospital for 3rd)

1992/1993: 5.7 (5th). Douglas Marland passes away March 6, 1993. Juliet Law Packer and Richard Backus become HWs.

1993/1994: 5.8 (5th)

1994/1995: 5.1 (7th). January 1995 co-HW change from Richard Backus to Garin Wolf and Richard Culliton. EP change from Laurence Caso to John Valente in May 1995.

 

I thought someone on another chat suggested that Paul Roberts was an alias for Tom King and KC Collier was an alias for Millee Taggart. The timing makes sense as Tom King left Another World after 8 years or so in 1980. He and Millee were a couple at that time. She may have written soaps during the 1981 writer's strike and was brought aboard officially as a union writer in 1981.

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2 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I wonder what ATWT would've looked like in the early 80s had Marland stayed until 1993?

I wonder why the short term gig before the Dobsons? Was Marland slated to be the head writer. I know he started several storylines..like the Joyce return and he was getting ready for a Penny return. I wonder what might have been and why the change.

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I think it was said that stint was always supposed to be 13 weeks, and Marland was always supposed to go to GL (and the Dobsons to ATWT). 

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16 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think it was said that stint was always supposed to be 13 weeks, and Marland was always supposed to go to GL (and the Dobsons to ATWT). 

I have read that before, but it does seem that he starts some storylines that the Dobsons ignore, like bringing Penny back...its odd that he didnt just coast it through.

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Marland violated his own rules. Often. He was a good writer, But he wasn’t perfect. That rules crap is just that. Crap. He violated those rules himself. 

On 6/15/2020 at 10:01 PM, Soapsuds said:

I'm going to report you again and you'll get banned again.

@Errol

Stop bullying me! Your threats are bullying tactics. I have a right to my opinion! 

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12 minutes ago, VanessaReardon said:

 

Stop bullying me! Your threats are bullying tactics. I have a right to my opinion! 

Not when you attack other posters and harass them. You have harassed three posters that I know of. There are probably more that haven't reported it to @Errol

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@Errol I’m sick of Soapsuds. That being said, I have been in touch with Juliet Law Packer who was thrown into the head writing trio when Doug suddenly passed. Very interesting time. She is a doll. 

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7 minutes ago, RavenWhitney said:

There are four parts to this Bridget Dobson interview. I read all parts a while back. She talks about the GL/ATWT transition and other writer issues. Here's the link to one part.

 

http://pierin26santabarbara.blogspot.com/2012/12/my-exclusive-interview-with-bridget.html

 

 

LOL..Iove good old Bridget..so full of herself! Are the Dobson's still with us?

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