Members Melroser Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 I did not enjoy Lily, Emily, or Malcolm yesterday either. All three of them need to go. The Newman mess is at least fun to watch if not a bit repetitive. I hope Ashley figures out Adam's crap soon and she finally leads the charge against all the Newmans with Jack and Billy back by her sides. The frustrating thing about this show is that they need to pick a story or two and stay with it. What about the Lauren thing? Malcolm's fiance mystery? Etc...can we keep all stories moving...not just sputtering for time filler when needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 It's a matter of fans not really watching. I knew the purple fabric came from Victor's tie without anybody telling me. Let's do the math: 1: Victor's in a scuffle. 2: Ashley finds a piece of purple fabric on the floor. 3: Victor's tie is the ONLY purple fabric in the room. If people paid some attention, they wouldn't have to have things explained to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Even Muhney said that the scene was not clear and editing was the reason. If even the actors feel obligated to explain what they feel is missing out of a scene, then who am I to argue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Muhney tends to over compensate though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 He does.... he feels the need to hold the fans' hand when they complain about stuff that is not really inconsistent. I know the feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Melroser Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 No matter what I may think of this story, Eileen Davidson is love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Yep. Sometimes he uses three sugars instead of two in Maria's coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 I think it's finally beginning to crystallize today exactly WHAT the root of the problem with Muhney's performances are. His performances are too cocky, too confident, like HIM. He needs to divest some of his personality traits from Adam's character. The character is lacking VULNERABILITY. That's what Engen put into it, that Muhney is lacking. She is so good lately, I'm not sure I can handle it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 If he's right that they planned to make it clear that Molester MD's death was an accident, and the editing took that out, then the complaints are valid. The Adam story is already unwatchable enough because of pointless ambiguity, starting back with the gaslighting that never ended. I think he and the show see Adam as needing to be sociopathic and glib and empty, like the rest of the Newmans. The problem is that this just makes them all the more uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Tomorrow's preview looks GOOD.... the scorned queen talks cold turkey to Sharon. I can't wait for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 GLIB... that's the word. Engen was totally devoid of that, and it made the character interesting. This glibness that you cite is what is making Adam cartoony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Unfortunately that type of attitude is what Rauch and Sheffer see as being manly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 The odd thing is that Maria and Victor have both used the term "sociopath" to refer to Adam, which is very odd to me. If Adam is a sociopath then how are they going to "redeem" him? I mean you either are or aren't a sociopath and it's not like there is a cure or even a treatment for that kind of mental disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 I think they just throw that around because they think being a sociopath means being cold or crazy, and probably because Sheffer likes the idea (his Craig Montgomery was one of the biggest sociopaths I've ever seen). I think Victor and Nick both come across far more sociopathic than Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicmoment Posted February 2, 2010 Members Share Posted February 2, 2010 Victor yes, better written and not so easily scripted. Adam ont he other hand they are trying their damndest to write him as being a sociopath and I don't think it is as easily put as they are trying to redeem him. Someone seemed to have thought, quite unwisely, that he would be most interesting as this sociopath but somehow someway I guess they seem to think that they can make the viewers like him inspite of it. I don't think they want to change it they want to use that characteristic wherever necessary for plotting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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