Members DRW50 Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 I don't think the country is center-right, but I think the country is so burned out psychologically they are often tricked into ideas that end up being much more extreme than they realize. For instance, the section of so-called Christian Trump voters who are now, belatedly, speaking out about how concerned they are over his hardline policies regarding refugees. They were duped into believing that his clear bigotry and xenophobia was just talk to get elected. In many cases it's about framing, and a con job. Trump was good at conning people into believing what he was selling. There's not much of an alternative on the left because many on the left who are in positions of power aren't sociopaths and aren't there to just tell blatant lies. Hopefully voters will wake up this time. I saw Moore saying that Biden is the new Hillary. The problem with that argument is any Democrat who runs will be the new Hillary. And many of his supporters are already pushing that narrative, eagerly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) As I already stated, Democrats won three out of the 4 House seats in Iowa last year and that happened even though the incumbent Republican Governor was being elected. In rural states the state-level offices are often view quite separately than the federal ones. I was rude in my previous post, so I will apologize for that. The situation the country is in is just frustrating, but I shouldn't take it out on posters here. Edited October 4, 2019 by ReddFoxx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Media darling Marco strikes again: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Maggie Haberman yuck. Talk about out of touch. Why is this tweet even newsworthy. This fraud was never going to show any courage. Who outside of these out of touch reporters don't know Rubio is an empty suit like Paul Ryan another so called star. I hope you realize Carl that this shows how completely out of touch all the Beltway press is and Haberman has become nothing more than a gossip columnist for Trump, IVanka, and Jared. Frankly she should be recusing herself from covering any of them based on her mothers PR firm having represented them. Edited October 4, 2019 by JaneAusten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) I've long been aware they're out of touch - the problem is more the power they still have over the narrative and the country. As for the tweet, I mostly just enjoy any new example showing what a fraud and a weasel Marco Rubio is as to this day people keep pushing him. Edited October 4, 2019 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sivad40 Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm not spooked at all. I just know who and what I'm dealing with. While I'm not a far leftist (A Bernie Bro, or a Green), I've been wanting Trump removed from office long before this Ukraine stuff even came up. I'm a get rid of Trump by all costs type of person and let the chips fall where they may type of person. You have some left leaning posters here and elsewhere have been scared to even impeach Trump (even now) because the Senate doesn't have the voter or the polls don't have enough Republican support to do it. If Trump was to get the military to destroy a city like Chicago and Los Angeles, many left wingers still wouldn't do anything because the polls don't have enough support to do anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 I have always believe it was moderates who were more concerned about impeachment, although if you're talking about the extreme far left kooks - some of who support Bernie and Tulsi Gabbard I agree. I don't know there are any far leftists here. I was trusting Pelosi because she's an experienced politician and I think knows Trump and knew something else would come up. But at this point everyone should know the playbook and should know what to expect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) It won't let me leave it empty. Edited October 4, 2019 by Donna B Delete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Unless I'm missing something, I think you may be in the wrong thread, @Donna B. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Oh, double darnit. I was in Official Off Topic. How'd I get into Politics?!! Can I move myself or do I have to get an admin to do it for me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just delete the post and move on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 @DreamerDramatist Thanks. I screwd up! @Vee, how do you delete a post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 It happens. People generally just type "wrong thread" or "deleted post" because there is no actual way to remove the post, so just fill it with something brief and click Reply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Bernie basically had a heart attack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted October 4, 2019 Members Share Posted October 4, 2019 Everyone has health issues with them sometimes being more serious than others and that's not something one should be criticized or judged for. But when it comes to the presidency these are things have to be considered because it is a high stress position that requires much travel. I'm not being mean, but Sanders looks far too frail to be President and this heart attack doesn't suggest that he is in that great of condition. It's also not great that the campaign tried to make it seem like something minor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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