Members Vee Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thread: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Vee Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 ............. This is just the opening: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) They KNOW the man they work for is batshit crazy. Yet, because they pride party over everything else, including the safety and stability of the people they have been sworn to protect, they sweep it all under the rug and pretend everything's fine. It's because of that kind of enabling and codependency that we are on the track we are now. People make fun of the fact that Elizabeth Warren seemingly has plans for addressing everything. However, if she's willing to come into office with solutions, and then figure out something else if those solutions don't yield the best results, then what's the problem? At least she HAS plans. What does Trump have, besides a severe psychological disorder? Of course, they aren't defying Pompeo, because they value this country. They're defying him, because they hope cooperating will keep them from being prosecuted as well. But, you know, whatever works. Edited October 2, 2019 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Does Yovanovitch even work for the State Department anymore? I seriously doubt Pompeo ever had any hold on her, so I don't see her having one iota of regard for what he wants in the matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 I'm almost starting to believe that the tide is turning and 45 might have to pay for some of the crimes he's committed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I don't see how, though. Again, I don't think the Senate will vote to remove him from office. I think the GOP will continue to defend him, because they are too afraid to do anything to upset their base. The House could vote to impeach him -- which they should -- but what does that truly mean, if he remains in office? IMO, voting him out next year is the only true recourse we have. That way, with him out of the WH, SDNY and whoever else can move forward in prosecuting him. (Provided, of course, he can't be pardoned for his crimes at the state level). And we can get on with the business of healing this country. The big question, though, is what ELSE is he gonna do in the meantime? And, God forbid, what happens if we CAN'T vote him out next year, but instead we're stuck with him until 2024 (and maybe beyond)? Edited October 2, 2019 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Meanwhile, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 He's going to destroy everything he possibly can in order to save himself. That said, let's not pretend this man is immortal or even healthy. There's plenty of reason to hope he won't even make it to 2020. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) Funny how Republicans (and my own mother) love to interpret Hillary Clinton's every move as a sign of Parkinson's or other neurological disorder, yet Trump's own physical movements and even speech mirror just about every Patient of the Week's on "House." (No, Foreman, this ain't lupus either.) Edited October 2, 2019 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Ruh roh. Bernie's Bros ain't gonna like this news: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-health.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 I'm waiting for one of them to claim Hillary tried to kill him. All joking aside, I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that Bernie will be able to stay in this race. I pretty much started the clock on him after that mishap with the "shower door." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Vee Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Two of my close family died from a heart valve issue, and my father has it as well. I have my best wishes for Bernie's health, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I think a possible exit for health reasons is an opportunity to end a repeat of 2016's mess before it truly begins. Meanwhile, someone else is doing great: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I have a Celeste Perrault premonition that Bernie's own health (even death, dare I say?) will be his undoing in his goal for presidency. I mean, he's 78! If he became prez in 2021, that puts him there from age 79 to 83. And if it is God's will, 83 to 87. I don't think so. I'm not ageist, just realistic. Aside from Trump, Bernie and Biden should not be running. I want someone in office who isn't going to keel over if the wind blows too hard. And I want our next Democratic president to last for two full terms. Edited October 2, 2019 by Gray Bunny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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