Everything posted by BetterForgotten
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Neighbours: Discussion Thread
I feel like I’m always going to go back and reference this finale. I’m not confident another long-running soap would be allowed to go out with similar dignity or care at this point.
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Y&R: Former OLTL actor joins the show
TSJ always had more sexual chemistry with men than any woman he was with.
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Y&R August 2022 Discussion Thread
We should be eternally grateful we were spared that travesty.
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The Beyoncé Thread
She's largely become an albums artist since '4' but I think this is her most singles and pop oriented album since I Am... Sasha Fierce (an album that hasn't aged well at all and is amongst her weakest work, IMO). Also appears to be a nod to the contributions of black performers (like Donna Summer) to the world of dance/house music, which is often overlooked by not just white audiences, but black audiences as well. The Neptunes wrote and produced said song and gave Beyonce and her record label permission to clear the sample. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what point Kelis is trying to make for a song she didn't produce or has any legal claim to. Sampling is also hardly a unique practice in urban/pop music. It kind of is what is if she doesn't have the legal grounds to prevent it.
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Neighbours: Discussion Thread
Margot Robbie is one of the very few soap alums I've seen that has never been shy of or tried to hide her soap past. I've seen her consistently bring Neighbours up in interviews for years, and how much she owes to that experience. She also sent all of the cast and crew a ton of champagne on their last day of filming... GOOD NEIGHBOUR I’m eternally grateful for Neighbours – it was perfect training for Hollywood, says Margot Robbie
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Neighbours: Discussion Thread
Susan's end monologue also had a great tribute to those fans in the UK who stuck by this show and kept it going for so many years - "Everyone deserves a place in the in the history of Ramsay Street, even those who watched us from afar. Together, we have been, the perfect blend." The show also made sure to give the UK fans a special shoutout on IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/CgnEpZhoJmI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link I noticed both Home & Away and Corrie also posted fond farewell messages on social media: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cgjbpzuv7Io/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet https://www.instagram.com/p/CgmrrRVM6V3/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
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Neighbours: Discussion Thread
Hats off to Kylie for wearing a very Charlene outfit and not letting the veneer of her subsequent pop goddess persona detract from that.
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Disney+: Marvel Studios' Ms. Marvel
Apparently, per her creators, Kamala was originally planned to be a mutant in the comics - but the politics of Marvel/Disney not owning the film rights to X-Men and their associated characters came into play and prevented that at the time. Ms. Marvel Co-creator Says Character Was Originally Planned as Mutant The show creators have also said the direction to make Kamala a mutant in the MCU came directly from Kevin Feige and they hadn’t originally written that in. It is fair to say Kevin Feige has a distaste for the Inhumans in his month. The very racist and misogynistic Ike Pearlmutter (former Marvel CEO) tried to use the Inhumans as an X-Men/mutant replacement for years because they couldn’t profit from those films as they sold the film rights to Fox in the 90’s. The fans noticed that sh!t right away too - but it never worked, the Inhumans comics never sold and the X-lines generally remained best sellers for them (despite horrible creators being put on them). Fantastic Four arguably got it worse when Marvel canceled that book completely at one point for similar reasons. They also stuck the Spider-Man lines with horrible creators and some of the worst stories of that time - but Spider-Man being seen as the “face” of the Marvel brand meant they couldn’t sideline him completely. Pearlmutter also forced Feige to put an Inhumans film on the MCU slate, which Feige hated. Things eventually got so bad that Feige went to then Disney CEO Bob Iger and threatened to quit if they didn’t remove Pearlmutter as his boss. The Inhumans project was then shifted to TV (and Pearlmutter’s influence was then relegated to Marvel’s pre Disney+ Marvel TV shows). Yes, Kamala will next appear in The Marvels alongside Carol and Monica Rambo. The first Captain Marvel movie was very divisive, so I wonder if this film being repositioned as 3-piece (as opposed to ‘Captain Marvel 2’) is intentional. Now that Kamala is also a mutant, I wonder if they’ll pull from Claremont’s Avengers Annual #10 and do a take on Rogue’s origin story, or at least tease it in a post credit scene.
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GH: Classic Thread
SJB played a very unique almost un-soaplike character in Carly. Not just the character herself, but the way it was often portrayed in a very visceral and often gritty way. Similar to the same way Judith Light had done as Karen Wolek decades before on OLTL (yes, she too was a recast, but who remembers anyone else playing that role?). LW doesn't have that quality, but she's playing whatever Carly is now.
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Disney+: Marvel Studios' Ms. Marvel
Well, this show was useful for something in the wider MCU - setting up the existence of the X-gene/mutant gene. Kamala Khan is an Inhuman in the comics, but is clearly being set-up as the first person to be called a "mutant" in the MCU 616 timeline. Granted, there's only like 5 people who have ever cared about the Inhumans, so outside of those people, I think most people are just happy the sacred timeline is building up to a wider expansion of mutants and the eventual MCU X-Men reboot.
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EastEnders: Discussion Thread
Himesh Patel earned an Emmy nomination for Station Eleven.
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EastEnders: Discussion Thread
Mona brought so much to an often underwritten role. She held her own with that entire Jackson family in the 90's. RIP.
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Degrassi: The Next Generation
Jane was definitely Spinner's most mature and equal relationship (Paige dominated him and later used him for sex, and Darcy was a mess of a character who was no saint herself, but expected Spinner to be). They could have easily just reunited them when they decided to write him off instead of the Emma sh!t - and it's frustrating that they had the opportunity to do so and didn't. Even if Sean didn't come back for Emma, they could have written her out some other way.
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Y&R July 2022 Discussion Thread
This was nice to see - Mishael Morgan acknowledged Victoria Rowell's post on her Emmy win via an IG story. https://www.instagram.com/stories/mishaelmorgan/2873279402345170025/
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
I didn’t realize longtime makeup artist Patti Denney was retiring. Mishael Morgan thanked her in her Emmy speech and just posted this IG story. https://instagram.com/stories/mishaelmorgan/2872139947039744656?igshid=NmZiMzY2Mjc=
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2022 Daytime Emmys Discussion Thread
I think you can celebrate someone's win, but also hold systematic injustice in the industry and genre accountable. The two aren't mutually exclusive and each deserves respective dialogue.
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2022 Daytime Emmys Discussion Thread
I didn't see anyone criticizing her win? I think the critique was more so around how it took the dying days of the genre for the academy to finally award a woman of colour. That, and the way daytime continues to write for write for characters of colour and treat their respective actors. Mishael is a worthy winner, and some would say she is the last truly amazing "find" Y&R ever had. Her initial casting is definitely the most significant contribution of JFP's tenure at the show.
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Billboard Charts
If Rihanna hadn't stalled her music career, she likely would have been closer to or surpassed The Beatles by now.
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
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God, these records are so meaningless in the current chart era with these formulas in place.- The Politics Thread
The repeal of Roe Vs. Wade is also going to cause years of litigation in states with those trigger laws, this will not be the last time the Supreme Court hears an abortion case. It's bleak right now with right-wing nutjobs in the majority, but I have to hope this issue will pop up again when there is a sensible majority on the court. It may be another 50 years, but the time will come.- 2022 Daytime Emmys Discussion Thread
It's easier said than done, depending on what your politics are and if they always linger on the back of your mind when you're watching an actor whose beliefs conflict with you own. For some, supporting an administration and a political ideology that they view as cancerous to the integrity of the nation is hard to overcome in someone, despite talent or that person playing a fictional character. That said, I don't think politics cost Brown an Emmy - if that was the case, I don't think she would have been nominated in the first place and the Academy has awarded some with similar politics in the past. For whatever reason, GH actors submitted well in the Support categories this year, or had reels that were easier to digest for the voting panel. Kimberlin has also never faired well with this particular award show. This was only her second nomination and her last was almost 30 years ago during her first stint on Y&R! She lost that year to Ellen Parker of GL, so competition was stiff and she likely didn't have a chance that year either.- 2022 Daytime Emmys Discussion Thread
A lot of it is politics too, and I know Mishael is also very beloved by that cast and crew. In fact, I love that she took the time to include the production crew in her speech and a special callout to longtime Y&R makeup artist Patti Denney (who I believe Eileen Davidson also called out when she won for Y&R a few years back).- Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
I haven't found it on YouTube yet, but Mishael's speech after she won the Emmy:- Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfPPH96JwWj/?igshid=NmZiMzY2Mjc= - Billboard Charts
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