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I enjoyed today's show. I liked seeing Mona again and her confronting both Eva and Leslie. I did feel for Eva, especially at the end of their confrontation, when Mona said "Good", when Eva mentioning losing everybody she cared about. Though, I can understand Mona's anger and Leslie deserved every bit of her ire. Both Leslie/Eva betrayed her especially Leslie. Mona put her both her professional and personal relationships with the Duprees on the line and what Leslie/Eva did put her in an awkward position.

Speaking of Leslie she continues to act trifling and caring only about herself and her needs. At this point, it only seems like she cares about herself and wanting Ted for herself. I'm not even sure how if her feelings for Mona were ever sincere, though she called out about people turning against her after Mona left. I have yet to see Leslie really display that she sincerely cares about anyone, and I do think that needs to change at some point.

I enjoyed Nicole and her scenes today with Leslie/her children. I also like that Martin took a more sensible approach regarding how the family should handle Eva. He did straight up acknowledge she was his sister, and it seemed like he was open to up to accepting her. I think he will be among the first in the family to soften towards/accept her. And in spite of the way she was introduced into their lives, he will end up being happy to have two little sisters.

I wonder again about Kat/Eva being twins/Eva being Nicole, when Martin/Kat brought up them being the same age and Kat even used the word "twins" in disbelief, when Martin suggested they shared a connection from the beginning.

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I really hope the next steps with the show are building up/out family or story for both Mona and Shanice. Mona has always struck me as prime real estate for a proper family setup.

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Well as I sit here waiting for my new episode to load on my system, I'm rewatched Friday.

 

Say what you want, but I will always live for the Dupree family moments. And I love how much Vernon and Anita were being there for Nicole. Tag-team comforting. That was just cute.

 

I also love...and I've said it before...how BTG does what Y&R used to do with major characters who you think are not going to be in the episode. Have them pop up later in the episode. It was a nice surprise to see Eva appear halfway through. And I knew at some point that SilkPress Sheila would wind up at that house alone with Nicole. Still gasped since it was the only time she was in the episode. 

 

Another thing that I'm loving has been as we are dealing with fallout from the SilkPress storyline which has been the A story...the writers are finally developing the OTHER A story...that's been in the background. That being Martin's Secret. Love the foreshadowing throughout. From Dani vs Bill and asking what else he was hiding to Kat/Smitty talking post another Martin outburst...which are building...to those unexpected Bill/Smitty scenes. Shame on Bill for planting seeds in Smitty's head. 

 

And the unexpected combo was also great. Vernon/Nicole. Kat/Smitty. Bill/Smitty. Even getting another Martin/Ted scene in. I liked that characters aren't just sticking too much into story bubbles. 

 

I definitely enjoying all the fallout from the SilkPress/Eva reveal. Eva might be done, but she ain't out. And I continue to get SMG Kendall vibes. Was she wrong? Yep. But she was partly tricked, too. So she definitely has an underdog vibe written all over her for some redemption. And one of the best plots on the show continue to be Kat vs Eva. So Kat seeing Eva getting closer to Tomas is only going to make that rivalry worse. It's been interesting to see the effects on the whole Richardson family from Nicole to Ted to Martin. And yes, fingers crossed that Martin stays triggered...since it feels like it's building onto his secret. 

 

Oops at Nicole finding out Andre knew about Ted. I do wonder if she might say it to Dani. And then Dani winds up breaking it off permanently with Andre. And yay! Vanessa showed up for her BFF.

 

I'm enjoying the C plot of the homeless woman. I totally think there's more to her. And it gives Naomi and Jacob a story. I'm sure I've said it before, but I do wonder if it will tie into the crooked cop story or even Joey somehow. And good to see Ashley and Derek...ironically in a C plot. 

 

And good to see we got three cliffhangers again. I hope this week does the same on Friday. 

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Oooooo I like these. I like we are on the same page about Little Brownie Man. And I hope to remember this at the end of June to see how much of it came to pass. I definitely feel that the Eva vs Kat story is about to reaaaally get going. 

 

As for the B/C stories, it's funny you mentioned the Joey/Vanessa/Doug story first. Because out of all of those, it is the only one that has enough structure and build to it that it could keep going as a B story that could eventually climax. I think the only POV we don't have in it is Joey's at this point because Month 2 put in the work to give us Doug's and Vanessa's and they are now circling each other and their relationship. And we still need to know Joey's endgame.

 

Why we gotta pick on Jacob and Naomi? We need that goody good couple. lol. They talked about how they got together. Mind you, very briefly. But we do need to know a little bit more about both. Something I was hoping we were getting by having them in their own stories....him with the crooked cop, her with the lawsuit...but it didn't turn out as hoped. Hopefully, that won't be the case with June though.

 

Yeah, I want to see more of THAT Ashley. 

I finally had to break down and explain to my manager why I keep laughing every time I see the bottle of Febreze at work. The product placement definitely be working.

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So true. Their hypocrisy is on another level. When Anita called Ted a coward because he used Bill as a fixer, I almost choked on my Ritz. And Dani calling Ted worse than Bill as a husband because Bill never pretended to be a good person? Then why stay with him for decades and continue to kiss up to him, Dani?

I was glad when Bill told Anita he wouldn't be her punching bag.

Not for me. I can think of 100 other actors who would have smoking hot chemistry with LB. Lindstrom does not. I see zero chemistry. None. Joey isn't sexy or scary.

 

-- Mona was awesome today.

-- Why was Eva playing cards in the back room of the casino?

-- Can they make Anita any more sanctimonious and self-righteous?

-- Dani said Anita had Ted shook. LOL. Really?

 

 

 

No. But I see what you're trying to do.

This is a SOAP OPERA. Characters HAVE to make mistakes and sin and screw up and cheat. That's the deal.

I understand the concern that we have 2 leading Black men who have cheated on their wives. I do. But I also understand that this is SOAPS 101. Are we going to hear complaints every time a Black character messes up???

 

 

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It always bothered me from the start that Nicole just took Mona's suggestion and never checked references.  A real psychiatrist would have done more before hiring someone. **

I like that Kat's reporter/investigative type instincts caused her to be suspicious of Eva from the start, and to try to spy on Eva and catch her as weeks went by.

However, I think that Kat's so focused on what Eva did wrong -- that she won't see that Leslie is the master manipulator, making some things appear different than they actually are.

I hope that Shanice's natural snoopy nature will get her to figure out what actually happened to Laura, and who really caused all the problems.

*** edit to add:
The show never specified what Mona's job was for Nicole.  Home manager?  Office manager?  Head personal assistant?  I'm sure there would have been a title?   
Mona asserted today her upset with Eva and with Leslie.  That they used her and ruined her reputation.  I just wish I knew what Mona's job was.
If Mona was an official manager, then it would have made sense for Nicole to trust the recommendation, if Nicole thought Mona had done a proper hiring procedure.  But if Mona is just an informal helper, then why wouldn't Nicole order a background check?

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