11 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

What I actually meant was that TL's life was a whole lot shorter than WJB's so he would've had far less time to think about it. Although speaking of 1990- on, had Jack Abbott been as magnetic a character going forward as it had been, the Abbotts probably would have absorbed a lot more of the screen time and perhaps there wouldn't have been the emergence of the Winters/Barber family line. 

 

Gotcha. The only regret I’ve heard Bell ever felt bad about was killing off Phillip III but that also cleared the way for that era to thrive as well. It’s interesting that Walton and Bergman won Emmys for their roles within a few years , I can only assume Bell & Co. must have felt vindicated. 

13 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Haha yeah Danny was such an 80’s leftover in the ‘90’s, although I appreciate the show did try veracity by saying Danny sung “Rock On” and having Danny go be in Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat. I don’t know what else would he have done otherwise aside from possibly shack up with Lauren? I’m always surprised he was on the show for so long too.

 

Probably the funniest thing was upon his 2003 return Paul & Lynne had Googled Danny and found out he was considered a washed up has been.  

 

I find it very hard to imagine Bell would've kept him if he didn't have another character to tie him to. He wasn't that important or special to create new characters and carve out space for. I was gonna say he could be the "Scott" in the Lauren/Sheila feud but I don't think Danny would ever be that oblivious.... lol

5 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

She even tried to cool down the situation over Maria's firing at one point, lol.

 

Word on the street is MAB’s two sister in laws don’t care for her much 😂. I can’t remember if it was right before MAB was fired or JG’s first go around where Thudley & Colleen threw in the offer to write for Y&R. 

1 hour ago, Michele Soap Writer said:

I dont remember Victor and Cassandra ever being a thing! Is there any woman on this show he did not bang at some point? lol. I think women just like his voice because in the looks department he is just ok

Sheila. I wonder what an explosive Sheila/Victor marriage, divorce, and subsequent rivalry would look like.

He never tapped Lauren at any point as far as I know.....I guess (minus Hope) he likes needy women.

Peter Barton was just the right amount of pretty, bland, and stupid to be between Sheila and Lauren.  Another firecracker would have destroyed the balance in that story!

 

Danny is a fine example of frontburner then forgotten.  He was on all the time for close to a decade.  Then just faded away.  At the time I was happy the show kept Phyllis even as they let Danny fade.

 

For all of our complaints about LLB, and Danny for that matter, the show went to number one and really took hold during the time they were on too much.  I know there was a lot to love about Y&R then- I certainly did and I could not stand Cricket. But she was on all the time, and her character and Danny’s must have been popular.  I know people that could tell you all about Cricket, and barely remember Cassandra.  
 

Nina saved scenes with Cricket for me back then.  I loved Nina.  I could tolerate Cricket when Nina was her rival and then her friend.  As someone that was annoyed by Cricket, it was hard to watch the show from about 88 to 94 without her being on 3 to 4 days a week.

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by titan1978

I recall that too. I don't believe Maria is well liked at all in the Bell family. Hence her killing "Brad" and "Colleen".

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by KMan101

28 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

The never even mentioned how Nikki almost married Jim when Christine started to interact with her and Victor more in 1995/1996 did they? I wouldn’t be surprised if they acted like Nikki and Christine never met each other...I’ve seen the episode where victor and Chris officially meet from October 1995 and just thinking that’s pretty insane even for an isolated show like Y&R that it took 12 whole years just for them to have scenes together...

 Did Nikki and Christine interact at all in 1989? 

7 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

I recall that too. I don't believe Maria is well liked at all in the Bell family. Hence her killing "Brad" and "Colleen".

Oh God... I never thought about it in those terms. You must be so right. 

8 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

I recall that too. I don't believe Maria is well liked at all in the Bell family. Hence her killing "Brad" and "Colleen".

She also fell out with her own sister who had played Marissa Barton, Diane’s assistant from 1998-circa 2003.

4 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 Did Nikki and Christine interact at all in 1989? 

 

Not from the 1989 episodes I’ve seen. But there was a late 1989 episode where Jim/Nikki and Scott/Lauren had a “double date” at the ranch, which surprised me because I had never seen Nikki and Lauren together in ANY scene ever prior to this. This was just after Jack had returned (as Peter Bergman) and they were all talking about having a double wedding between Xmas and NY. 

16 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Danny is a fine example of frontburner then forgotten.  He was on all the time for close to a decade.  Then just faded away.  At the time I was happy the show kept Phyllis even as they let Danny fade.

 

Skip to 15:55 in this episode and you’ll see a young Danny interacting with Patty (Lillibet Stern), when he was still kinda seeing her (back when she was about to marry Jack who was cheating on her with Diane).

 

 

15 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

Not from the 1989 episodes I’ve seen. But there was a late 1989 episode where Jim/Nikki and Scott/Lauren had a “double date” at the ranch, which surprised me because I had never seen Nikki and Lauren together in ANY scene ever prior to this. This was just after Jack had returned (as Peter Bergman) and they were all talking about having a double wedding between Xmas and NY. 

That’s fascinating, I need to watch more of 1989 then! Jim & Nikki I’ve seen a little of but they felt short lived while poor Lauren couldn’t have Brad or Paul so she settled with Scott.

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by soapfan770

51 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

She also fell out with her own sister who had played Marissa Barton, Diane’s assistant from 1998-circa 2003.

 

lol yikes. Maria sounds like a fun person. NOT. 

 

54 minutes ago, Aback said:

Oh God... I never thought about it in those terms. You must be so right. 

 

Yeah. It's a little strange she killed those two characters, and they happened to be named Brad and Colleen. If Lorie were on the show at the time she'd have probably died too.

 

If you were a real writer with any care for the fabric of the show you don't kill off Traci's only child. 

 

Side note, and because I just happened to randomly watch clips of Lily and Dru over the Malcolm reveal .... Davetta Sherwood was so perfectly cast as Lily I remain irked to this day they fired her for that Valley Girl. Valley Girl would work fine as a different character, she's never been Lily to me. She did sort of work fine initially. I think I was just really turned off by her Lily after falling in love with Davetta's. I didn't mind Christel in her very first run as Lily. She worked as the teenage version.

Edited May 6, 20205 yr by KMan101

The Y&R choices are soooooo grand! B&B‘s pale badly compared to this, even though the episodes itself are solid.

 

https://www.cbs.com/recommended/news/1009809/five-days-of-foes-and-fashion-for-the-young-and-the-restless-and-the-bold-and-the-beautiful-theme-weeks/

1 minute ago, sheilaforever said:

The Y&R choices are soooooo grand! B&B‘s pale badly compared to this, even though the episodes itself are solid.

 

https://www.cbs.com/recommended/news/1009809/five-days-of-foes-and-fashion-for-the-young-and-the-restless-and-the-bold-and-the-beautiful-theme-weeks/

I wish they didn't include 2012 and 2014 episodes, Other than that though! This week sounds gooood. Im guessing the first ep is the attic fight?

1 minute ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

I wish they didn't include 2012 and 2014 episodes, Other than that though! This week sounds gooood. Im guessing the first ep is the attic fight?

Same ! The 1993, 1998 and 1999 are classic. I remember well the attic fight and the Jabot takeover of course but they are great episodes. The 2012 and 2014 I won’t bother.

and B&B only have one episode from the 90s’. Dear God !